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Old 06-03-2014, 08:23 PM
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hey so my turbo ls vtec running on e85 tuned on s300 and prologger. my car was running just fine when i got out the game 2 yrs ago and i tried staring it today and it didn't wanna start. so i was wondering if e85 gas gets old or something? i wanna get back into honda. need help. i feel like i forgot everything about working on cars. lol its sucks
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Of course it gets old, that stuff is like a sponge and absorbs moisture in the air. Regular gasoline will get old and do the same thing over time. I've had month old e85 start smelling really bad, never had it sit so long it affected the car though
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Originally Posted by 91b18a1ls
Of course it gets old, that stuff is like a sponge and absorbs moisture in the air. Regular gasoline will get old and do the same thing over time. I've had month old e85 start smelling really bad, never had it sit so long it affected the car though

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Did it sit in a tank or just In a bucket.

Ive had e85 for sit for about 7 months and when I started her up it started just fine.
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Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
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Did it sit in a tank or just In a bucket.

Ive had e85 for sit for about 7 months and when I started her up it started just fine.
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2 year old fuel is really old no matter what type.
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should i just put new e85 with the old one or drain the old and put new in it?
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you need to drain the entire fuel system then put some regular 93 octane in the system and run the car. that way you clear any old ethanol and water out of the pump, filter, injectors, and regulator. then put fresh e85 in and go from there.

if your fuel filter sat that long with e85 in it and it's an OEM style with a paper or synthetic filter media then it's waterlogged and needs to be replaced.

the problem is e85, even in a storage container like a can (sealed barrels or pails won't let water in) or a fuel tank (which is an open system with a vent) will absorb tons of moisture out of the air. it's even worse if you live some place humid.

if you plan on letting the car sit for any period of time with ethanol in the fuel system you need to add the e85 stabil or another kind of ethanol fuel stabilizer stuff to the fuel system and let the car run for a few minutes so the fuel stabilizer can be adequately distributed to the various fuel system components

although letting e85 sit that long can lead to damaged and seized injectors (i think turbols or lightingteg just had an issue with a seized injector from letting the car sit with e85 in it), as well as fuel pump issues and depending on the type of fuel line you use it can eat the line from the inside out.

most people who run e85 or higher ethanol percentage fuels always drain the system and "pickle" it with regular 93 before storage. this keeps fuel components safe and in operating condition until the car is driven again.
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I have one of those inline fuel filter from chase bay pretty new. do you think i should replace it?
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A fuel filter that should be use with e85 should be low on micron try contacting chase bays and ask about it, if you can! Their customer service suck as a head up.
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that filter should have a reusable stainless steel filter element.

but fyi you paid wayyyy too much for that filter, just because it had his name on it. and funny story he saw my s13 with a shaved engine bay and full wiretuck at IA in Nashville in October 2006. shortly after that he started chase bays lol
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Thanks bro. i don't think it has his name on it but i knew everything from chase bay is expensive. ill have to look at my filter to see if it has the stainless steel filter element.
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Mmmm 2 year old e85. Bet that tank looks like poop now.

If you know anything about alcohol youll know it loves water like alcoholics love alcohol. Water+steel tank= fun times (not)

At the very least you shoukd drain the tank. If the fuek comes out clear I would still pop the tank open and have a peek inside to make sure theres no rust.
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