dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine?
12-10-2003, 07:04 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (vod)
Don't go smaller than .63ar on the turbine for this turbo.
You don't want to match a 600hp compressor with a 300hp turbine.
12-10-2003, 07:34 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't go smaller than .63ar on the turbine for this turbo.
You don't want to match a 600hp compressor with a 300hp turbine. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry but might be a stupid question but.....how come it would be a "bad" thing to do? I was actually thinking the same thing too, i figured getting the smaller .48 turbine would help spool that huge compressor quicker and i might be able to get a decent power curve on my stock GSR
Don't go smaller than .63ar on the turbine for this turbo.
You don't want to match a 600hp compressor with a 300hp turbine.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Sorry but might be a stupid question but.....how come it would be a "bad" thing to do? I was actually thinking the same thing too, i figured getting the smaller .48 turbine would help spool that huge compressor quicker and i might be able to get a decent power curve on my stock GSR
12-10-2003, 07:40 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (94goldjungsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they dont even offer a .63</TD></TR></TABLE>
WHAT???
Since when? What do they offer it in now?
I hope thats a Typo.
WHAT???
Since when? What do they offer it in now?
I hope thats a Typo.
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12-10-2003, 07:42 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
WHAT???
Since when? What do they offer it in now?
I hope thats a Typo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was, thanks
WHAT???
Since when? What do they offer it in now?
I hope thats a Typo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was, thanks
12-10-2003, 07:42 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (B18Flip)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18Flip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sorry but might be a stupid question but.....how come it would be a "bad" thing to do? I was actually thinking the same thing too, i figured getting the smaller .48 turbine would help spool that huge compressor quicker and i might be able to get a decent power curve on my stock GSR </TD></TR></TABLE>
The compressor is just too much for the small .48 turbine.
If your using a .48 turbine for a fast spool up...use the 50 trim, or 57 trim at most...The turbine will limit the HP output far before the compressor.
Sorry but might be a stupid question but.....how come it would be a "bad" thing to do? I was actually thinking the same thing too, i figured getting the smaller .48 turbine would help spool that huge compressor quicker and i might be able to get a decent power curve on my stock GSR
</TD></TR></TABLE>The compressor is just too much for the small .48 turbine.
If your using a .48 turbine for a fast spool up...use the 50 trim, or 57 trim at most...The turbine will limit the HP output far before the compressor.
12-10-2003, 07:44 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The compressor is just too much for the small .48 turbine.
If your using a .48 turbine for a fast spool up...use the 50 trim, or 57 trim at most...The turbine will limit the HP output far before the compressor. </TD></TR></TABLE>
AH ok i get it now......thanks
The compressor is just too much for the small .48 turbine.
If your using a .48 turbine for a fast spool up...use the 50 trim, or 57 trim at most...The turbine will limit the HP output far before the compressor. </TD></TR></TABLE>
AH ok i get it now......thanks
12-10-2003, 07:51 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (arjusmc)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arjusmc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i hope it not a problem on the sc34. cause i just bought a sc34 with a .48 ar anyone know???</TD></TR></TABLE>
The SC34 is a 57 trim. It will be a torque monster with the .48ar turbine...
The SC34 is a 57 trim. It will be a torque monster with the .48ar turbine...
12-10-2003, 07:55 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (Bryson)
just found this on another thread, it might help a little Question though, are these results pretty much universal when comparing turbine trims on different turbos like a regular T3 and say a T3/T4e 60trim?
Question though, are these results pretty much universal when comparing turbine trims on different turbos like a regular T3 and say a T3/T4e 60trim?
12-10-2003, 07:59 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The SC34 is a 57 trim. It will be a torque monster with the .48ar turbine... </TD></TR></TABLE>
well thats good news, prior to buying it i spent a good 5 hours researching it and i found nothing like this topic. when i read that i damn near had a seizure. i'm going for torque. it will be a daily driven street car.
by the way its has the 76 wheel. i decided to go in the middle, larger wheel with smaller AR
The SC34 is a 57 trim. It will be a torque monster with the .48ar turbine...
</TD></TR></TABLE>well thats good news, prior to buying it i spent a good 5 hours researching it and i found nothing like this topic. when i read that i damn near had a seizure. i'm going for torque. it will be a daily driven street car.
by the way its has the 76 wheel. i decided to go in the middle, larger wheel with smaller AR
12-10-2003, 08:22 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (94goldjungsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94goldjungsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those graphs are pissing me off!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see why???
Show me a graph of a .48 turbine honda motor running under 30psi of boost making over 350hp.
This is the exact same reason why you don't use a T-25 on a ITR motor. why can't this same concept be expanded into a little larger turbo configuraion?
I don't see why???
Show me a graph of a .48 turbine honda motor running under 30psi of boost making over 350hp.
This is the exact same reason why you don't use a T-25 on a ITR motor. why can't this same concept be expanded into a little larger turbo configuraion?
12-10-2003, 08:27 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't see why???
Show me a graph of a .48 turbine honda motor running under 30psi of boost making over 350hp.
This is the exact same reason why you don't use a T-25 on a ITR motor. why can't this same concept be expanded into a little larger turbo configuraion?
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becuase theres no telling what values are on the x axis. how do we know LS motor's do not stop at the point the path's cross, thus making the graphs entirely misleading. people think that LS motor's correlate exactly to that, which is not true. Until we know how the x axis corresponds to LS motors, it is useless.
As for a high revving motor, .63 > .48
I don't see why???
Show me a graph of a .48 turbine honda motor running under 30psi of boost making over 350hp.
This is the exact same reason why you don't use a T-25 on a ITR motor. why can't this same concept be expanded into a little larger turbo configuraion?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
becuase theres no telling what values are on the x axis. how do we know LS motor's do not stop at the point the path's cross, thus making the graphs entirely misleading. people think that LS motor's correlate exactly to that, which is not true. Until we know how the x axis corresponds to LS motors, it is useless.
As for a high revving motor, .63 > .48
12-10-2003, 08:28 PM
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Re: dynos of sc61 with .48 ar turbine? (94goldjungsr)
also, your claim someone made 60 more hp from the housing, i do not buy. if you notice they said they picked up 13hp from switching housings, but lost 19ft/lbs of trq. Seriously, a completely uselses graph.
12-10-2003, 08:35 PM
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Please don't get mad.
I'm not pissing on the LS motor for not making more power than what it did.
I am however, giving people a POSSIBLE REASON why the motor made less hp that most peoples expecations at 23psi.
That is ALL.
Bryson
I'm not pissing on the LS motor for not making more power than what it did.
I am however, giving people a POSSIBLE REASON why the motor made less hp that most peoples expecations at 23psi.
That is ALL.
Bryson
