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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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the plugs will be white with specs on them if its running lean correct?

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Old Feb 14, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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the specks can also show that ur burning coolant and it's leaving deposits on your plugs. but yes white is running lean.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SoTexDC2
No, they do not. There is absolutely no reason to try and adjust valve timing by advancing or retarding the cam gear(s) an entire tooth.

Usually, tuners don't mess with the cam gears until they've exhausted every other option for power. Even then, the gains are marginal at best. Especially on a turbo car with OEM cams.

When you removed/reinstalled the head, did you follow the proper procedure for installing your timing belt?

So what your saying is adjustable cam gears really wont matter on oem cams in regard of "ease of tuning"? because i bought an ls/vtec swap that was built and boosted with type r cams and it has stock cam gears and I have been undecided on changing them out as added insurance when it comes time for me to get my turbo set-up and tune it...i dont mean to thread jack
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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So what your saying is adjustable cam gears really wont matter on oem cams in regard of "ease of tuning"? because i bought an ls/vtec swap that was built and boosted with type r cams and it has stock cam gears and I have been undecided on changing them out as added insurance when it comes time for me to get my turbo set-up and tune it...i dont mean to thread jack
I wouldn't add adjustable cam gears unless your tuner specifically recommends that you do so. There are surely gains to be had with lots of dyno time, but it may not be much. I really don't have the experience to tell you how much your setup will benefit from them.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Well i set the cams and crank at tdc, now the bastard wont start at all, i have to give it throttle to get it started and as soon as i let off it dies... Wtfff
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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Bumpp it still wont start, im getting fuel and spark
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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Well i set the cams and crank at tdc, now the bastard wont start at all, i have to give it throttle to get it started and as soon as i let off it dies... Wtfff
sounds like you need to advance the timing on ur dizzy, also sounds like ur iacv isn't working. is ur tps plugged in? could be a couple of things.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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i tried advancing the dizzy and still nothing, tps is plugged in, iac was working just fine before i changed the headgasket...
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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have you checked the compression
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by killacam661
i tried advancing the dizzy and still nothing, tps is plugged in, iac was working just fine before i changed the headgasket...
did u jump the wires under the dash? if not, the ecu will compensate for ur base idle adjustment and nada will happen
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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wires under the dash as in the wires you use to read the check engine lights? and the compression is good. motor is very healthy, by fuel psi at idle(well if it did idle, when i turn on the key and the fuel pump primes) is 41-43psi, is that about right?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:23 AM
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wires under the dash as in the wires you use to read the check engine lights? and the compression is good. motor is very healthy, by fuel psi at idle(well if it did idle, when i turn on the key and the fuel pump primes) is 41-43psi, is that about right?
nope, i believe it's a blue plug but it looks just like it.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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nope, i believe it's a blue plug but it looks just like it.
ive never had to do anything with that plug before...
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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one time i crossed the pluged to the map sensor plug to the tps and the tps plug to the map. my car would not start
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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^^^ i will go check this, i have done that before too.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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i tried advancing the dizzy and still nothing, tps is plugged in, iac was working just fine before i changed the headgasket...
Did you just blindly move the distributor, or did you check the actual ignition timing with a timing light?

You must insert a jumper into the service connector, just like when you are pulling a trouble code without an OBD scanner. Do this before starting the car, and be sure the engine is at operating temperature before adjusting the ignition timing.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ashb82
one time i crossed the pluged to the map sensor plug to the tps and the tps plug to the map. my car would not start
This is another thing to look in to. The connectors are exactly the same, and easily hooked up backwards. In my experience, the car will start, it just boggs and hesitates like hell and the idle fluctuates.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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i had the two mixed matched! lol, swapped em and it started right up, awesome! i used a timing gun and set ignition timing at 16*, but i didnt do the jumper thing, but i waited til it was warmed up before i moved the dizzy for adjustments.what will happen since i didnt do the jumper thing?and my fuel psi at idle is 41, is that ok?thanks for everyones input
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