I was thinking about purchasing one of these systems to squeeze a few extra poinies out at the track. I dont want to run nitrous, so I figured this would be a decent idea.



Has anyone used these? I was thinking of either the intake bulb or getting the intercooler sprayer and spraying it over my jrsc. Do you think the gains would justify the 450 bucks?
gmoore

 

I wouldn't put the ic sprayer on the jrsc. If you do that when it is hot it might crack. Also waiting for it to cool down so you can spray it would get old. I say go for the intake bulb and try it if it works see if you can put 2 in the intake.

 

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I was wondering the same thing, changing the temp of it would cause the atoms to expand/contract too rapidly and cause damage. Thats a good possibility.

Anyone have opinions on the bulbs?
gmoore

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegunderpressure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was thinking about purchasing one of these systems to squeeze a few extra poinies out at the track. I dont want to run nitrous, so I figured this would be a decent idea.




what the hell is that, and what does it do?
Has anyone used these? I was thinking of either the intake bulb or getting the intercooler sprayer and spraying it over my jrsc. Do you think the gains would justify the 450 bucks?
gmoore</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Its like a nitrous system except it runs liguid co2. You buy attachments like these that the co2 freezes, and either lowers your intake temp, fuel temp, or IC temp.







Any more opinions?
gmoore

 

I'd say buy it. Buy the bulb and the fuel adapter. And yes you can put more then one bulb in the intake. My only concern is that the air you are cooling is getting compressed anyway so I'm not sure how much it will help. But I'm sure it will help. Just my $.02

 

well if you want real gains from the $450, you'll have to get really creative and mount the bulbs in the intake manifold itself. because as stated above, if you place it in your intake tube, that nice cold air will pass through the hot blower and get compressed and heat up again, and you've basically defeated the purpose of cooling it in the first place. however, if you can cool it after the blower, then you'd be in business

 

creative? I say direct port Co2 injection, if possible. But yea, get the Co2 in after the air is compressed and you will be much happier with your $450 investment, and the improvment in your times at the track.

 

your not injecting the c02...your running it throught the bulb to cool it. that way theres a super cold peice of metal (obstruction) in the intake).


If i did one i'd do the sprayer.

 

opps... strait from the site....

"As the air passes over the bulb heat is removed from the air charge resulting in a colder, denser more powerful charge."

I was explained that it actually injects the co2, and this was from a guy that was sellingthe stuff

Ok so now that i know how it actually works. IMO if going in system befroe air is compressed not worth the $450

Sorry for any problems. As a salesman from DEI explained how it worked the wrong way.

 

Im am running both the intake bulb and the intercooler kit. As far as my impressions go I think it works very well. I don't really have anyhting to back this up at the moment since the first time I used it the intercooler sprayer was releasing the co2 through my intercooler then straight into my intake (co2 in intake BAD), but the run felt great the car was breaking up all day at the top end untile I used the co2....While I was on the track the car ran the exact same times with it as it did without it(although it did feel better), but if i rerout my intake im sure i will se a gain in the 1/4.

 

Ok so hold up justy a second. Since i was recently schooled on this sytem. How long does a bottle last? Does it need refilled? could this be a substitute for an intercooler? Maybe use more than one bulb? Me =

 

You can use more than one bulb, but the bulb in the intake does cause a small loss of airflow so more than one would double the loss. As far as running this and not an intercooler...I really can't say( I don't know how efficiant that would be)

As far as how long a bottle lasts, I used mine at the local track for 5 runs then had it on the rest of the night on the street, and I still have a good amount left(its been 2 1/2 weeks)

 

dont mean to be a bugger, but c02 doesn't combust.

you must get the gains by spraying the c02 ON objects, not through/in them (engine related parts)

..

Brad

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCarp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im am running both the intake bulb and the intercooler kit. As far as my impressions go I think it works very well. I don't really have anyhting to back this up at the moment since the first time I used it the intercooler sprayer was releasing the co2 through my intercooler then straight into my intake (co2 in intake BAD), but the run felt great the car was breaking up all day at the top end untile I used the co2....While I was on the track the car ran the exact same times with it as it did without it(although it did feel better), but if i rerout my intake im sure i will se a gain in the 1/4.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've heard a few people using the c02 intercooler kits are experiencing massive lean out on the car due to the colder temp change that the IAT picks up. Have you had any problems with your car leaning out on you when using your kit?

 

I havn't had any problems leaning out, but like I said before I was not running the kit in an optimal way. I should have some numbers to post this weekend.

 

Please let us know. Also, if its not too much to ask, can you make a run with and without the bulb ONLY, completely leave out the FMIC sprayer if you can, since I dont have one.
gmoore

 

I have actually made a run with the bulb and not sprayed......the bulb in the intake without Co2 gave me a 13.3@ 106MPH. Without the bulb(noCo2 either) I ran a 13.1 @ 106MPH.

I did not spray the Co2 on the intercooler in either one of these runs

I am running the 3 inch kit with 2 3/4 pipe intercooler piping....I don't think I would opt for the 2.5 inch bulb kit, just seems like to much restriction IMO.

 

They should make a Tornado shaped bulb

 

Well it is kinda shaped like a bullet, they say its aerodynamcally designed, and with the blower sucking I doubt much will slow it down. Dyno graphs would really be usefull here. Theres really no way to get the bulb inside the blower, Im sure cooling very hot air would be more advantageous than cooling room temp air. More opinions ideas?
gmoore