D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped?
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D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped?
I got a friend that wants to run the greddy kit plus an intercooler, hondata dyno tuned. at 7 or 8 psi on a stock d16z6. He wants to at least pull 200 WHP out of the setup, but isn't sure what kind of numbers he will pull. If anyone knows, or has a similar setup, let me know. thanks in advance.
05-01-2004, 12:01 AM
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (94B18B1Teg)
swap it, i have the greddy kit and it's slow unless you get 200+whp. D16's just can't handle much power in stock form, rather pick up a cheap B18 and have 300whp year round
05-01-2004, 07:59 AM
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (Del_Slowest)
Or alternatively pick up some rods, pistons, bearings etc and have money left over for possible sleeving and do the same. Pick your poison.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (Del_Slowest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Del_Slowest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">swap it, i have the greddy kit and it's slow unless you get 200+whp. D16's just can't handle much power in stock form, rather pick up a cheap B18 and have 300whp year round</TD></TR></TABLE>
last time i checked no B series has 300whp....
last time i checked no B series has 300whp....
05-01-2004, 07:46 PM
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (JD95hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JD95hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
last time i checked no B series has 300whp.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wtf? OPEN your eyes dude!
last time i checked no B series has 300whp....
</TD></TR></TABLE>Wtf? OPEN your eyes dude!
05-01-2004, 08:54 PM
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (JD95hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JD95hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
last time i checked no B series has 300whp.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Aren't we in a f.i forum?
So i think the possibilities are endless.....IF u got the scratch..
last time i checked no B series has 300whp....
</TD></TR></TABLE>Aren't we in a f.i forum?
So i think the possibilities are endless.....IF u got the scratch..
05-02-2004, 12:32 PM
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (JD95hatch)
Heh, to clear up the B series making power, there was a street driven GSR on here, with 620WHP, pump gas. Just a clarification. And the turbo I bought came off a 314WHP B16A. *shrugs*
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boosting a B series wasnt mention you dumbfuks....it was boostin a D16z6...if he could afford the Bseries and a turbo then he wouldnt need to bother with the d16 would he??
he would have just said...should my frined boost his d16...or buy a bseries and boost it.....cmon guyz...
i know a boosted DOHC can put out mad power...that wasnt my point.
he would have just said...should my frined boost his d16...or buy a bseries and boost it.....cmon guyz...
i know a boosted DOHC can put out mad power...that wasnt my point.
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Re: (JD95hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JD95hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boosting a B series wasnt mention you dumbfuks....it was boostin a D16z6...if he could afford the Bseries and a turbo then he wouldnt need to bother with the d16 would he??
he would have just said...should my frined boost his d16...or buy a bseries and boost it.....cmon guyz...
i know a boosted DOHC can put out mad power...that wasnt my point.
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oh, in that case boost that bitch till it blows and then go crying to your mommie when it blows and ask for a B series. Thats what i would do ( if my parents actually gave a rats ***)
Seriously though, i'd turbo it if i were him. a swap is just too expensive unless you know ppl who can hook you up.
he would have just said...should my frined boost his d16...or buy a bseries and boost it.....cmon guyz...
i know a boosted DOHC can put out mad power...that wasnt my point.
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oh, in that case boost that bitch till it blows and then go crying to your mommie when it blows and ask for a B series. Thats what i would do ( if my parents actually gave a rats ***)
Seriously though, i'd turbo it if i were him. a swap is just too expensive unless you know ppl who can hook you up.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No need to swap, especially with a goal of only 200whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (Del_Slowest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Del_Slowest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">swap it, i have the greddy kit and it's slow unless you get 200+whp. D16's just can't handle much power in stock form, rather pick up a cheap B18 and have 300whp year round</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to be a *****.. but if you can't get over 200WHP out of a F/I D-16...... please pay someone else to work on it.
Oh as for the swap.. you cna drop in forged pistons and rods in a D-16 cheaper than you can do a swap.
Not to be a *****.. but if you can't get over 200WHP out of a F/I D-16...... please pay someone else to work on it.
Oh as for the swap.. you cna drop in forged pistons and rods in a D-16 cheaper than you can do a swap.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No need to swap, especially with a goal of only 200whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ditto to that!
Man d16 can hold their ground. No need to swap. the Greddy kit is ok for a 1st time boost owner. keep it under 8psi daily driven and it should last you a while (2-3years when tuned) I'd feel confident pushing 10psi but only on certain occassions.
7-8psi expect numbers of about 185wpish and 170tq
Ditto to that!
Man d16 can hold their ground. No need to swap. the Greddy kit is ok for a 1st time boost owner. keep it under 8psi daily driven and it should last you a while (2-3years when tuned) I'd feel confident pushing 10psi but only on certain occassions.
7-8psi expect numbers of about 185wpish and 170tq
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (Del_Slowest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Del_Slowest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D16's just can't handle much power in stock form</TD></TR></TABLE>
You sure about that?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=821860
Tuned right they can.
You sure about that?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=821860
Tuned right they can.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (infinatenexus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not to be a *****.. but if you can't get over 200WHP out of a F/I D-16...... please pay someone else to work on it.
Oh as for the swap.. you cna drop in forged pistons and rods in a D-16 cheaper than you can do a swap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Anyone can get over 200whp out of a D16, you just turn up the boost (it'll blow, i don't care who says that D16's are strong. I've seen my pencil dick rods and i just don't trust them past 200whp) And how much did you pay for ur swap b/c a build up costs around 2000 and you can swap in b16's now for around 1500 or less.
Not to be a *****.. but if you can't get over 200WHP out of a F/I D-16...... please pay someone else to work on it.
Oh as for the swap.. you cna drop in forged pistons and rods in a D-16 cheaper than you can do a swap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Anyone can get over 200whp out of a D16, you just turn up the boost (it'll blow, i don't care who says that D16's are strong. I've seen my pencil dick rods and i just don't trust them past 200whp) And how much did you pay for ur swap b/c a build up costs around 2000 and you can swap in b16's now for around 1500 or less.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (Del_Slowest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Del_Slowest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Anyone can get over 200whp out of a D16, you just turn up the boost (it'll blow, i don't care who says that D16's are strong. I've seen my pencil dick rods and i just don't trust them past 200whp) And how much did you pay for ur swap b/c a build up costs around 2000 and you can swap in b16's now for around 1500 or less. </TD></TR></TABLE>
See above.
Tuned properly, they can last a very long time and put out good power.
For a build you need about $1500 total for pistons, rods, machien work, bearings, etc.
Swaps cost a heck of a lot more than that in the long run if done right.
Anyone can get over 200whp out of a D16, you just turn up the boost (it'll blow, i don't care who says that D16's are strong. I've seen my pencil dick rods and i just don't trust them past 200whp) And how much did you pay for ur swap b/c a build up costs around 2000 and you can swap in b16's now for around 1500 or less. </TD></TR></TABLE>
See above.
Tuned properly, they can last a very long time and put out good power.
For a build you need about $1500 total for pistons, rods, machien work, bearings, etc.
Swaps cost a heck of a lot more than that in the long run if done right.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (Del_Slowest)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Del_Slowest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Anyone can get over 200whp out of a D16, you just turn up the boost (it'll blow, i don't care who says that D16's are strong. I've seen my pencil dick rods and i just don't trust them past 200whp) And how much did you pay for ur swap b/c a build up costs around 2000 and you can swap in b16's now for around 1500 or less. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I see your point.. but if your doing a swap.. why waist 1500 on a B-16.. when a D-16 with pistons and rods will generate the same, if not more WHP for less money?
Just to let you know, I am in the process of building a D-16 with CP pistons, eagle rods, and an assortment of other goodies.. and I have yet to break the 2000.00 mark.
Anyone can get over 200whp out of a D16, you just turn up the boost (it'll blow, i don't care who says that D16's are strong. I've seen my pencil dick rods and i just don't trust them past 200whp) And how much did you pay for ur swap b/c a build up costs around 2000 and you can swap in b16's now for around 1500 or less. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I see your point.. but if your doing a swap.. why waist 1500 on a B-16.. when a D-16 with pistons and rods will generate the same, if not more WHP for less money?
Just to let you know, I am in the process of building a D-16 with CP pistons, eagle rods, and an assortment of other goodies.. and I have yet to break the 2000.00 mark.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (infinatenexus)
Boosted SOHC..... Anyone running boosted jdm D's?(ZC, D15b) Im still debating whether to get JDM D over D16z6 cuz i cant find them anyone in one piece with less than 100K miles
dont mean to ***** this thread but its sorta on the same topic.
Anyone running boosted jdm D's?(ZC, D15b) Im still debating whether to get JDM D over D16z6 cuz i cant find them anyone in one piece with less than 100K milesdont mean to ***** this thread but its sorta on the same topic.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (ladysman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For a build you need about $1500 total for pistons, rods, machien work, bearings, etc.
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That's exactly what my D16Y8 build cost, and it should be capable of safely producing more power than a stock B16 ever would.
For a build you need about $1500 total for pistons, rods, machien work, bearings, etc.
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That's exactly what my D16Y8 build cost, and it should be capable of safely producing more power than a stock B16 ever would.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (JD95hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JD95hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone running boosted jdm D's?(ZC, D15b)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ill let you know this weekend.
And read this before your criticize SOHC's.
http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=4140
Ill let you know this weekend.
And read this before your criticize SOHC's.
http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=4140
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (tegunderpressure)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegunderpressure »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ill let you know this weekend.
And read this before your criticize SOHC's.
http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=4140 </TD></TR></TABLE>.
lol....i look at that all the time cuz im lost if i should go custom or greddy. but i see these greddy boosters puttin out 200+ whp on 10psi and it makes me wanna run greddy! but i cant decide!!
And read this before your criticize SOHC's.
http://www.turbod16.com/viewtopic.php?t=4140 </TD></TR></TABLE>.
lol....i look at that all the time cuz im lost if i should go custom or greddy. but i see these greddy boosters puttin out 200+ whp on 10psi and it makes me wanna run greddy! but i cant decide!!
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (infinatenexus)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I see your point.. but if your doing a swap.. why waist 1500 on a B-16.. when a D-16 with pistons and rods will generate the same, if not more WHP for less money?
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For one, it puts a cieling on your build. If you build and boost it and youre still not happy your **** outta luck, and a pretty penny. However if you swap a b16, it will be pretty nice, boost it, alot of fun, build it, amazing.
But I might build a ZC myself, heh.
I see your point.. but if your doing a swap.. why waist 1500 on a B-16.. when a D-16 with pistons and rods will generate the same, if not more WHP for less money?
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For one, it puts a cieling on your build. If you build and boost it and youre still not happy your **** outta luck, and a pretty penny. However if you swap a b16, it will be pretty nice, boost it, alot of fun, build it, amazing.
But I might build a ZC myself, heh.
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Re: D16z6 with greddy kit, worth it or should it be swapped? (tegunderpressure)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegunderpressure »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For one, it puts a cieling on your build. If you build and boost it and youre still not happy your **** outta luck, and a pretty penny. However if you swap a b16, it will be pretty nice, boost it, alot of fun, build it, amazing.
But I might build a ZC myself, heh.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A D16 with the right forged internals can go 400-500+whp, that's gives a big ceiling to grow if you ask me. Displacement is the big limiting factor, which the B16 also lacks.
For one, it puts a cieling on your build. If you build and boost it and youre still not happy your **** outta luck, and a pretty penny. However if you swap a b16, it will be pretty nice, boost it, alot of fun, build it, amazing.
But I might build a ZC myself, heh.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A D16 with the right forged internals can go 400-500+whp, that's gives a big ceiling to grow if you ask me. Displacement is the big limiting factor, which the B16 also lacks.