Xander4

I am in a bit of a bind.....I don't know what set up I want to go with. I either want to go w/ a D16 (EX) motor and turbo it rite away or very soon or go w/ an B16A2 (SI) and stay N/A for a year or so then turbo.

My question is what do you guys think I should do? I mean gas prices are gonig to get high this summer and I won't be as as fast w/ an SI. But w/ an EX I could use regular or midgrade gas, & run about 7-10 psi (max) and still be pretty quick. No matter what, I am goin to get a '99 or '00 civic. Another problem is that I would have a higher premium on insurance and have to pay off a loan for about a year or so. With an EX, I can afford one w/ no loan and prolly still have money for a turbo. But people tell me I should get a B-searies motor and just wait. What should I do?!........It is also gonna be a daily driver.....Thanks

rjardy

you will not be able to run mid grade gas at 7 psi on anything. trust me. i have a d16y8, you want to run premium on any boosted engine.


Rob

Drew Peacock

Depends how quick you want to go you can hit very high 12s to low 13s on a stock sohc engine.. The B16 swap will cost as much as it will cost to turbo your sohc, with boost you will have that much more power it is funny. Forget a turbo if worried about fuel economy.....

NCSTIdriver

Forget a turbo if worried about fuel economy

yeah really.. well greddy maybe an option. I say get the B16 and be happy with that power for a while then turbo if you want to.

SiRkid

Si..
i bet youll be just as fast..
be more reliable..
and it will give you a year to really learn about turbo and do it right the first time!

Xander4

all I wanna do is just run high 13's....ok & i would have to use premium.....

@irborne

get the swap; then turbo later down the road; you'll be happier

Xander4

I wasn't wantin to swap.....it was either an Si or a D16 turbo

CzanSOHC

Lets see how many Si's can keep up my my turbo D16. No way a stock Si is going to be "just as fast" as a turbo d16...are you serious?




[Modified by CzanSOHC, 11:12 PM 2/17/2003]

@irborne

stock si would not hang w/ a turbo sohc.

eg6turbo

yeah i agree no stock b16 will hang with boosted d-series...for the b16 and turbo...i can be d15b vtec (jdm which i have) built being more reliable and have money left over for a standalone...or in my case afc-hack very shortly....if u want 13's its not that hard...but to me u need to do more homeowrk...d series have alot of potential for the price tag...if high 13's is ur goal d16 turbo will get u there if ur a good driver and not buy BS parts like nozzle lights and other random stuff...keep ur head straight along with ur driving and u'll be in the 13 sec club...good luck!

Xander4

I know how much potential d-series motors have, I am just confused on what to do and if I want to get a turbo, what size and set-up to go with.

SiRkid

ive kept up and beat a few boosted d series..turbo and jrsc'd
*shrugs shoulders*


[Modified by SiRkid, 5:21 PM 2/18/2003]

Smashback

Well damn man, that't not saying much. I thought that JRSC SOHC's were slower than NA SOHC's anyway

Turbos...well, maybe you were beating the Greddy guys

SiRkid

most were greddy's
and the jrsc sohc. he hung pretty good but i started to walk at the top of 3rd..
everyone has diff experiences.
im still n/a btw(with i/e)


[Modified by SiRkid, 5:28 PM 2/18/2003]

Smashback

I'll tell you (this is going to sound hot headed) but regardless of the fact I never went to the track or street races, I did race quite a few cars when I had the turbo SOHC and never lost.

I beat many V8 Mustangs, a V8 Firebird (with 5 people in it but hey he started it), a nitrous Focus, and a whole slew of really riced out cars , mostly Civics and Eclipses.

I think the last time I raced was on the highway with a 99 or 00 Si and a Protege turbo (new funky car...hadn't seen one before this) and I beat them both, but they both gave me a better run than most Mustangs.

One thing that I always remember though is racing a really nice hatch, extacly like mine except he had big rims with a GSR swap. If I remember right he had the classic i/h/e. He started it, pulled pretty good, but I threw it down into 2nd and smoked his *** hard.

You just gotta have the right turbo on your SOHC and you will easily destroy N/A B series cars...maybe unless it's a CRX Racing that GSR hatch was great for giving me an idea of how I was doing power wise, since it's the same exact car and not a heavier Integra or something like that.


[Modified by Hatchblack, 5:36 PM 2/18/2003]

VTC_CiViC

LOL!!

I guarantee you, every bolt-on in the book and I'd still rip anything B16 to peices..

SiRkid

you,,most likely..
but im sure there are a few n/a b16's who could smoke you..
hatch..
i beat a lot of mustangs myself.
ahahhaa.
its all fun

Smashback

Eating Mustangs is especially fun since I was once a Pony enthusiast. I still love them, but I really dig having a turbo four, plus I love my hatchback.

liam821

My gas milage was better with my turbo then without. I got around 350 miles on a tank with the turbo and around 320-350 without.

My only guess on the better fuel milage was i didnt have my foot in the floor as much as the car was soo much faster.

All you turbo honda people with FMU's are the ones that get crappy gas milage..get a real fuel system and you will find your fuel milage will change little with a turbo.

liam

SOHC_power

go with the d16 turbo. you won't be disappointed. i've beat si's and jdm gsr swap civics w/lsd and bolt on's. turbos are really fun to drive also.

btw good to see sohc turbo people coming out!

CzanSOHC

B16 what?






[Modified by CzanSOHC, 12:45 PM 2/18/2003]

nd8ch

with turbo, you can just turn up the boost when you like or if you need, and get more hp on the fly. to someone, turbo is always soemthing to talk about

SOHC_MShue

damn i wish i had the money to turbo my SOHC rite now . I will shortly though

SiRkid

i really like mustangs aswell but it is fun beating them.
ehehehehe