which d-series?
hey whats up guys? i am considering maybe doing a d-series turbo set-up in an eg and i do not know much about d-series motors. which d would be the best for a stock motor turbo set-up? which one would make the most reliable power? also if anyone has suggestions on turbo set-ups that would be cool to. is 250 whp safely daily driven out of reach? sorry but i dont know very much about this and i have searched but dont really know what to look for. thanks for the help
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there are plenty of different set ups here from stock turbo set ups to drag ones
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1643764
turbod16.com has good info too
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1643764
turbod16.com has good info too
alright cool, thanks. if you were going to get a d-series motor, which one would it be? i dont have a clue what there even is to choose from.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alex_s817 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright cool, thanks. if you were going to get a d-series motor, which one would it be? i dont have a clue what there even is to choose from.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd do a B18C.
(I have a Y8 by the way, but looking back I always wish I went with a B)
I'd do a B18C.
(I have a Y8 by the way, but looking back I always wish I went with a B)
i wanted to do a b-series too, but i think a d would be fun and a good set-up for my first turbo car. thanks for all the help and if you guys have any turbo size or set-up recomendations, please fill me in
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oh thats cool, i wish i had more money to go with b series, but people make some good numbers with ds. from your experience, is 250whp daily driven out of range for a stock motor?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alex_s817 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh thats cool, i wish i had more money to go with b series, but people make some good numbers with ds. from your experience, is 250whp daily driven out of range for a stock motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Definitely do-able. Just get a solid setup and have it tuned by someone who knows their **** and you should be able to hit that no problem.
Definitely do-able. Just get a solid setup and have it tuned by someone who knows their **** and you should be able to hit that no problem.
oh cool. i am selling my integra right now but i wanted to see if this would be the way to go. i will end up with about 5000 to buy a hatch and play with the rest, so i might not have enough to do a turbo set-up soon, but i guess ill have to wait and see. i appreciate all the comments and quick responses
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250whp is pushing a stock moto, if you want it to last stay at around 10psi with a good tune.....
you will make people say.. "dang thats a single cam?"
hhehe
you will make people say.. "dang thats a single cam?"
hhehe
I'm starting to collect all of the pieces for a d15b vtec, vitara pistons, tt rods, honda bearings, honda hg, arp studs, and stock rebuilt head. I am still undecided on turbo, my goal is 250 - 300 whp, hopefully I can get there. I'm in no rush to finish, I mean the car hasn't even started in over a year, so I will take my time in the hopes of a good end result.
My vote would be D16Z6 or a D15B VTEC
My vote would be D16Z6 or a D15B VTEC
is there a big difference in those two motors you just suggested? i know vtec doesnt do much on stock n/a d series but does it come in to play when your boosting? man i need to find a list of specs on all d -series haha
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJ_SaNdOz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm starting to collect all of the pieces for a d15b vtec, vitara pistons, tt rods, honda bearings, honda hg, arp studs, and stock rebuilt head. I am still undecided on turbo, my goal is 250 - 300 whp, hopefully I can get there. I'm in no rush to finish, I mean the car hasn't even started in over a year, so I will take my time in the hopes of a good end result.
My vote would be D16Z6 or a D15B VTEC </TD></TR></TABLE>
U might want to gather more inof, vitaras will not work in a d15d, they will stick out like 2mm's.....
Several have tried......
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alex_s817 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a big difference in those two motors you just suggested? i know vtec doesnt do much on stock n/a d series but does it come in to play when your boosting? man i need to find a list of specs on all d -series haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
Both are great motors.. To build on go with the z6 since there isn't any support for the jdm d15d for pistons....
The jdm d15b is a werid motor but gets the job done...
Its basically a d15z1 block with z6 rods and head..
The pin height of the piston is different then that of the z6 which is why the vitaras won't work on that guys d15b set up.
My vote would be D16Z6 or a D15B VTEC </TD></TR></TABLE>
U might want to gather more inof, vitaras will not work in a d15d, they will stick out like 2mm's.....
Several have tried......
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alex_s817 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there a big difference in those two motors you just suggested? i know vtec doesnt do much on stock n/a d series but does it come in to play when your boosting? man i need to find a list of specs on all d -series haha</TD></TR></TABLE>
Both are great motors.. To build on go with the z6 since there isn't any support for the jdm d15d for pistons....
The jdm d15b is a werid motor but gets the job done...
Its basically a d15z1 block with z6 rods and head..
The pin height of the piston is different then that of the z6 which is why the vitaras won't work on that guys d15b set up.
just get an a6 block (since the sleeves are stronger)
put in a good piston/rod combo (cp 9:1 w/ Eagle Rods)
look for a nice manifold/turbo setup for sale within your budget
attach that to a Z6 head (i've got an extra one for sale
)
use soem ARP headstuds to keep it on the block
Have a good tuner, tune it with hondata or AEM or whatever you can afford
put in a good piston/rod combo (cp 9:1 w/ Eagle Rods)
look for a nice manifold/turbo setup for sale within your budget
attach that to a Z6 head (i've got an extra one for sale
)use soem ARP headstuds to keep it on the block
Have a good tuner, tune it with hondata or AEM or whatever you can afford
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U might want to gather more inof, vitaras will not work in a d15d, they will stick out like 2mm's.....
Several have tried......
</TD></TR></TABLE>
from what I have read, the vitara's still work, it's higher a higher c/r then w/ the other d's but turbod16 seems to have several success stories.....
U might want to gather more inof, vitaras will not work in a d15d, they will stick out like 2mm's.....
Several have tried......
</TD></TR></TABLE>
from what I have read, the vitara's still work, it's higher a higher c/r then w/ the other d's but turbod16 seems to have several success stories.....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJ_SaNdOz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
from what I have read, the vitara's still work, it's higher a higher c/r then w/ the other d's but turbod16 seems to have several success stories.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe do but i have found other wise with the pin placement
from what I have read, the vitara's still work, it's higher a higher c/r then w/ the other d's but turbod16 seems to have several success stories.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe do but i have found other wise with the pin placement
hrm, well I would prefer a z6 block if I can find one for a decent price. It's something that I was going to search out anyway. I'm still collecting all of the parts, so my build is still a few months off anyhow. I will continue to research since I don't want to build th emotor just to have it not work. Thanks for the words of warning
so which d series engine would be the best to turbo if i am gonna to leave it completely stock? i just want to put it in, put on a nice turbo kit, get tuned, and go. thanks again
D16Z6 is the best one. The difference between a vtec and non-vtec sohc motor is not very significant <U>just</U> because of having vtec, it's mostly that the vtec head flows much better.
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I'd do a B18C.
(I have a Y8 by the way, but looking back I always wish I went with a B)</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just curious why?
I'd do a B18C.
(I have a Y8 by the way, but looking back I always wish I went with a B)</TD></TR></TABLE>Just curious why?
Everyone knows the dohc has more potential, but it'll cost you the same amount of money to swap in a <U>stock</U> B as it will to turbo a D. I actually had a b16 that I was getting ready to swap in, and half-way through I was like "WTF am I doing?"...it was gonna cost me $2500 to get it in there, stock. Then I'd make like 140hp and be wayyy disappointed.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheHooded_Mike »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Everyone knows the dohc has more potential, but it'll cost you the same amount of money to swap in a <U>stock</U> B as it will to turbo a D. I actually had a b16 that I was getting ready to swap in, and half-way through I was like "WTF am I doing?"...it was gonna cost me $2500 to get it in there, stock. Then I'd make like 140hp and be wayyy disappointed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, but how many people here would actually exceed the D Series potential and require a swap?
Yes, but how many people here would actually exceed the D Series potential and require a swap?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheHooded_Mike »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That was my whole point, did you actually read my post?
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Yes. What I got from it was that you had a choice between turboing your stock D or having an N/A stock B. What does that have to do with the maximum potential of either engine?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes. What I got from it was that you had a choice between turboing your stock D or having an N/A stock B. What does that have to do with the maximum potential of either engine?




