kevinoneill

Hey guys, i read alot on the FI forumn and their's always terminology i'm missing.

I know what the manifold is, the turbo and what not. But what is a "flange"?
The down-pipe is the piping that flows from the turbo that follows to the exhaust?

I know there are other parts with names i can't recall that i only remember when i read them and think...what is that?

A picture with arrows pointing to the different parts would be best! But that would take some work. But hell, i'll make it if you can tell me all the parts and edicate to them.

TravSi

someone can do that but then why would honda-tech need a search button?...If something yur stuck on just search and u shall find an answer then if u still just dont get it then ask a more less broad question, narrow it down to a question that is more technically related to a certain part u dont understand...like wastegate, bov, etc..and write what u know or think u know about it so we know what to tell u and better explain to help u out with the ?'s u have about turbo parts, It will help u out soooo much more

kevinoneill

Ok well. I'm sure you know that only a select few know how to label thier topics appropriate to the content. If you have the knowledge share it.

I know what a xx and what it does:
Manifold
Intercooler
Wastegate (internal/external)
Blow Of Valve (BOV)

I don't know what a xx is and its purpose:
Flange
Down pipe
and other things i don't even know what they're called.

These are all the physical parts that make up the turbo.

Egg-weezy

http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo....html
Go to turbo basics after you get on this site. It was meant for 2nd gen integras but it has alot of good stuff for all honda applications.

Here you go check this site out and you'll find all of the beginner knowledge you need to know. Honda-tech tho sometimes helpful are full of people that would rather post a page on telling you how to use the search button rather than using that time to tell you what you need to know. What a waste of knowledge, everyone at one time didn't know it all.....once you know what you do than share your knowledge. Instead of being a jack *** and posting useless bullshit, either don't post at all or answer what has been asked!!

kevinoneill

Thank you very much. That site is Grrrrreat!

Cheers mate

TravSi

For one ******* half of us dont have time to sit and write what ever part to a turbo is and what it does and how it works....SO if you want to play night in shinning armor by all means type away...I was making sure he knew that if he narrowed things down and explained to us what he knows and what he doesnt then maybe we could help him out better from a standpoint of are we talkin to a no brainer or semi knowledgeable that just needs some guidence...There are so many topics wasted on info that can be searched, I wasnt being mean or didnt want to not answer his question but it was to broad and to much info to break down....I mean u dont have to be a total ******** and tell me that my post was useless...If u really want to be that guy then go for it but there is more people who probablly see it my way....To get info u need to have a slight background on the info you want obtained, thats how i work...Its like school you dont go and say teach me english i dont get it, the proff. will sit down and evaluate what u do know and what u dont then he will go from there and help out as much as he can.......But again if you want to spend all day wrinting to this guy all the turbo parts and there function by all means do it....but most of us arent like that, im sure someone will be backing me up.......I wasnt wrong with what i wanted to know from him, until u had to go and call me names and tell me i suck and im usless....blah blah *middle finger* peace

Egg-weezy

wow, i can see how you thought that post was directed towards you since you did post useless ****. But I was telling "issues4" how H-T in general was. By the way with you half page post that you posted it just validates my previous comment on Useless **** being posted on threads. I helped him out with a fairly short post. So i guess my armor is shinnier than yours. chillout man...you need to go get some booty!!!!!

lazerus

All of you kids quit arguing, theres no point. heres the answer to your question.




Some are multiple parts, because different turbos requre different parts of that type. but this should give you a nice rundown.

Illustration # Turbonetics # Garrett # Discription # needed Retail price/ea

5 20209 400450-0001 Bolt - Compressor Hsg. 6 $ 0.54
5 20207 N/A Locking Flange Bolt-Comp Hsg. 6 0.83
5 20208 400724-0810 Bolt - Compressor Hsg. Metric 6 $ 0.83
6 30246 407876-0000 Lockplate - Comp. Hsg. 3 0.52
7 20193 407875-0000 Clamp - Compressor Hsg. 3 0.69
7 20198 410218-0001 Clamp - Compressor Hsg. 3 0.60
8 Compressor Housing
9 20206 400677-0816 Bolt - Turbine Hsg. Metric 6 0.52
9 20209 400450-0001 Bolt - Turbine Hsg. 6 $ 0.51
10 30247 406909-0000 Lockplate- Turbine Hsg 3 0.50
11 20194 406908-0002 Clamp - Turbine Hsg. (2 bolt) 3 1.15
11 20195 408848-0002 Clamp - Turbine Hsg. (3 bolt) 2 1.36
12 Turbine Housing
13 30229 403069-0064 O-ring - Compressor Hsg. 1 $ 6.39
13 20236 409248-0000 Gasket - Compressor Hsg. 1 0.71
13 30243 403069-0060 O-ring - Compressor Hsg. 1 2.48
14 30233 400768-0011 Locknut - Compressor 1 3.15
15 See Table Page 12 Compressor Wheel 1
16 30234 403818-0034 Piston Ring - Turbine End 1 $ 7.00
17 Turbine Wheel / Shaft
18 20297 407565-0000 Wheel Shroud 1 $ 26.00
18 30264-72 409639-0000 Wheel Shroud - Std Wheel 1 11.38
18 30264-03 409627-0000 Wheel Shroud - Stage II & III 1 11.38
19 30237 400764-0616 Locking Flang Bolt - Bearing Hsg. 4 0.54
19 30248 400805-0202 Bolt - Bearing Hsg. 4 0.18
19 30226 N/A Locking Flange Bolt - Bearing Hsg. 4 0.27
20 30249 407684-0000 Lockplate - Bearing Hsg. 2 0.22
21 20270 430108-0003 Backplate - Carbon Seal 1 49.00
21 20317 409629-0001 Backplate - Dynamic 1 40.00
21 20196 408206-0002 Backplate ***'y - Carbon Seal 1 154.00
22 20304 400424-0000 Ring Seal - Backplate 1 1.14
25 20219 407634-0000 Thrust Bearing - Bronze (3 hole) 1 18.00
25 20219-S 448110-0001 Thrust Bearing - Steel (3 hole) 1 18.00
26 20262 409558-0000 Thrust Collar - Carbon Seal 1 19.00
27 30235 400568-0000 Retaining Ring 4 0.33
28 20256-0 408056-0000 Shaft Bearing (Std.OD-Std.ID) 2 7.00
28 20256-2 405919-0002 Shaft Bearing (Std.OD-.010ID) 2 $ 7.00
28 20256-4 405919-0004 Shaft Bearing (.010 OD-.010 ID) 2 7.00
28 20256-6 405919-0006 Shaft Bearing (.010 OD-Std ID) 2 7.00
29 30236 400624-0000 Thrust Pin 2 0.33
30 20275 407516-0004 Thrust Spacer - Carbon Seal 1 9.00
31 30209 409695-0000 Carbon Seal 1 19.00
32 20327 430027-0025 Bearing Housing - Dry 1 99.00
32 20234 430027-0047 Bearing Housing - Wet 1 99.00

Brad


Modified by lazerus at 12:54 PM 4/5/2004

spark plugs.

to dainteg for bein' a plain ole good guy
to travsi for bein' a pompous a$shole who'd rather flame someone and waste even more time than just giving an easy answer or not answering at all.

issues4, do0d, the search button is VERY useful. use it. go0d luck on your future turbo endeavors and your turbo inquiries.

kevinoneill

Thanks guys, when i get home i'm gonna find a good picture of a real turbo and do a little arrow pointing with names on it. Hopefully i'll get it all right.

That is definetely a very detailed breakdown.

nigel

thats one ******* awesome diagram!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!!!!!

nigel

I have another question now. which seals are the ones that go bad? in the diagram..

I think this seal is bad. but I am not sure.

DSak's acUra

seems liek you spend a lot of time typing that post......

nigel

60wpm takes no time postwhore.

Egg-weezy

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Yeah, i wasn't sure what this he was all about. Basicly he just contridicted everything that he said and tried to make me seem like a dick for some reason. Eh...oh well.

nigel - DSaks acUra was trying to reply to "TravSi" not you and your broken seal remark!!!!

TravSi

I didnt contradict ****.....I started off by telling him to search a little and read some stuff and obtain a lil knowledge on his own and then he could write more narrowed questions stating better what he wants to know, I mean seriously this is just not something you can easily answer....So i posted what i said first

Then u got me fired up with your remarks and well i get a little testy cause i was trying to be helpful in finding out maybe what he didnt know or what he did...Its truly hard to say since i dont even know him....He then answered:

So this tells me hmm ok he does know some parts that make up a turbo kit and what he needs clarification but by then u totally pissed me off cause i felt what i told him originally was not useless....Just cause i didnt give him the answers he wanted and wanted him to maybe do a lil searching and then make a question less broad, sory if thats so wrong but I have posted so many links and so many informational sites that can be found searching this web page....AND no i spent no time at all, im a fast typer... , You just fired me up thats all, no harm no foul...im over it, get over it.....So im done with that

Now that diagram is cool, but i dont think thats what he wanted to know totally...I believe he is lost at trying to figure out the parts on a turbo kit....Now a flange is something that u would use to connect say the wastegate to the manifold, downpipe to the turbine housing, bolting 2 exhuast sections together etc, You would weld yur dp to the "flange" and bolt to teh turbine housing....The Downpipe is what you bolt to the turbine housing which the routes the exhaust gases into the exhaust.....the otehr things you want to know i hav no idea where to begin, look at some pics of turbo kits from importparts.com or you can look at some pics on cheapturbo.com also they have some interesting stuff...roadraceengineering.com has some good stuff to look at and a few articles to read....Anyway sorry for flipping I just got really pissed cause i felt i was first trying to help by better knowing what he wanted to kno...I guess i was wrong i will for now not analyze people just answer the questions, I will no longer care what they know or what they dont to better help....Hope the end here i might have helped a little.....Peace

nigel

man instead of arguing, and bs'ing, howbowt opst informaition like we were asking for. thanks.

TravSi

Now that diagram is cool, but i dont think thats what he wanted to know totally...I believe he is lost at trying to figure out the parts on a turbo kit....Now a flange is something that u would use to connect say the wastegate to the manifold, downpipe to the turbine housing, bolting 2 exhuast sections together etc, You would weld yur dp to the "flange" and bolt to teh turbine housing....The Downpipe is what you bolt to the turbine housing which the routes the exhaust gases into the exhaust.....the otehr things you want to know i hav no idea where to begin, look at some pics of turbo kits from importparts.com or you can look at some pics on cheapturbo.com also they have some interesting stuff...roadraceengineering.com has some good stuff to look at and a few articles to read....Anyway sorry for flipping I just got really pissed cause i felt i was first trying to help by better knowing what he wanted to kno...I guess i was wrong i will for now not analyze people just answer the questions, I will no longer care what they know or what they dont to better help....Hope the end here i might have helped a little.....Peace

nigel

good man! but I still cant figure out what goes bad inside the turbo.

TravSi

The seals in the center section are the ones that will go....which is why you get oil in the turbine or compressor housings....Probablly like the seals 22, 31, 27, etc...

kevinoneill

Flange- Is that oval shape peice of metal on top considered a flange? even though its physically welded to the wastegate?

un-used exhaust from turbo - Little confused here. Is there not also a 2nd pipe leaving the bottom of the turbo and running to the exhust (aka. down-pipe)? The one i pointed to...does that connect up with the exhaust aswell?

TravSi

Yes that is a wastegate flange, you have downpipe flanes, exhuast flanges, turbo flanges, etc...and yes you are correct that is the downpipe where it takes the gases out of the turbine and into the exhaust via the DP

kevinoneill

Alright good stuff. So i just need to know if that piping coming out of the wastegate...if it goes to the exhaust or what it does. I kinda have to assume it does.

Oh and hey, in your info there...Tyrone? location? is that Tyrone in Northern Ireland?


Modified by issues4 at 5:30 PM 4/5/2004

TravSi

the wastegate dump tube can be reverted into the exhuast or dump'd to atmosphere, dumping into exhuast will keep things quiet, a dump to atmospehere setup is loud when the wastegate opens....No im from Tyrone Pa USA

FredoSP

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TravSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For one ******* half of us dont have time to sit and write what ever part to a turbo is and what it does and how it works....SO if you want to play night in shinning armor by all means type away...I was making sure he knew that if he narrowed things down and explained to us what he knows and what he doesnt then maybe we could help him out better from a standpoint of are we talkin to a no brainer or semi knowledgeable that just needs some guidence...There are so many topics wasted on info that can be searched, I wasnt being mean or didnt want to not answer his question but it was to broad and to much info to break down....I mean u dont have to be a total ******** and tell me that my post was useless...If u really want to be that guy then go for it but there is more people who probablly see it my way....To get info u need to have a slight background on the info you want obtained, thats how i work...Its like school you dont go and say teach me english i dont get it, the proff. will sit down and evaluate what u do know and what u dont then he will go from there and help out as much as he can.......But again if you want to spend all day wrinting to this guy all the turbo parts and there function by all means do it....but most of us arent like that, im sure someone will be backing me up.......I wasnt wrong with what i wanted to know from him, until u had to go and call me names and tell me i suck and im usless....blah blah *middle finger* peace</TD></TR></TABLE>

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