A car vs bike race is so dependant on the skill of the rider. Most riders will start in a gear higher then they need to and roll onto the throttle instead of just gassing it which makes a huge difference on a bike.

 

I think there may be a little confusion here...Are we talking a 911 Carrera S or a Porsche Carrera GT? I could easily see a turbo Honda beating the former, but only very serious setups would dare play with the latter...

 

agreed.

 

Man it's like you are trying to race a nissan skyline or gtr.

 

Kills returns! ! Would be interesting to see

 

Used to love that forum haha

 

lol 395 hp slow what? you should easily beat a 911 carrera with that kind of power as for carrera gt i would be amazed to see a turbo civic take a carrera gt

 

I have watched a few Vette's go down to Honda's over here racing. Worked Honda is just so sweet...

 

It was directed to the OP


Even from hearing most of the encounters here from other members, most of their races are considered a "burp" on the highway. 130-140 mph is nothing, compared to those exotics. It's not surprising to see a 350-400 WHP Honda beating a C6 Z06, but there is no glory in it because the Z06 will eat it for lunch a few seconds later. The Honda is just trying to "hold it off" for a mere burp on the highway.

With a 500+ WHP car and going against top supercars like a Carrera GT, how long would an 80-140mph race last? 6-7 seconds of racing? That's a burp. When going against these cars (C6 Z06, ZR1, Vipers, etc..), a typical race at those power levels still lasts well up to 10-12 secs. But instead of a typical 350-400 WHP Honda which only gets up to 140mph on a typical highway run, the exotics are well into the 160-180 mph mark -- A boosted Honda has real trouble keeping up at those speeds.

 

at 385whp, im trapping about 130mph in my EG. Not that difficult

 

**** those are the ones im looking for..

 

Aside from a better powerband, gearing, aero, suspension. Yeah no problem.

 

Thanks for the info guys. I meant a carrera not a damn carrera GT. I love my hatch and it feels super quick. I know its not near the class of a gt3 or any porsche.

 

regular carrera should be no problem

 

And that's the end of what a Honda can do on the highway... Especially light chassis like a Civic hatch, weight advantage diminishes when you are hovering at higher speeds. It will never keep up with another supercar that also traps 130 mph but has gearing and aero to suit.

It's the same deal when my 2520 lb Integra which traps 133 mph (520 WHP) gets murdered by single'd Supra which it was only trapping 128 mph (580 WHP) on highway speeds (80-160 mph). I was ahead of the race for a few secs, and until about 120 mph and the Supra just left me with no effort. Very typical outcome.

1/4mile trap shows nothing about highway performance when a typical Honda uses all its main powering gears within the 1/4mile distance... There is nothing left on the table in a Honda beyond 1/4mile speeds.

 

Not to mention unsafe. The car feels "floaty" at 130+. Im going custom make a diffuser for my civic in hopes it will help this effect.

 

on my wastegate spring (13psi) i am making 415whp and i beat a 2010 911 S from a 60mph roll. i pulled away from the porsche pretty good in 4th gear and let out when I got to 5th gear because of being on bfg drag radials.

it can be done.

 

Yea but I mean a lot of 500+ whp Hondas that are trapping 135ish mph usually do that in 4th gear b/c they've worked on their transmission. My car hits in the mid 160's at redline in 5th gear at 10,000 rpm.

I'd imagine most boosted hondas have some sort of transmission work. In my case I know I'll be going with Albin gears and a 4.2-4.4 FD which should get me around 180-190 mph at redline in 5th gear. Most of those exotic cars will only go to 200 mph maybe 205 I thought? For instance a C6 Z06.

Most definitely NOT safe in our cars without some serious aerodynamic, downforce, etc work, but still doable. I know I pulled a C6 Z06 from 80-160 and I just nailed 5th gear and pulled away from him while he downshifted to 4th. Who really cares about any race over 140 anyway? All that you're proving is that your car has more gearing at that point....if you are 8 cars ahead by the time you back out of it the guy in the $200,000 car better not even try talking **** haha

 

whats the point of this thread?

 

5th gear on a Honda is overdrive unfortunately, so it does not like to accelerate much after that point. Most of the supercars will not be in overdrive until 6th gear, thus, they are still at 1.000 or lower ratio up to about 180 mph.

To get 8 cars ahead of another 128-130 mph car (eg: Carrera GT) at moderate speeds like 140 mph on the highway, you will probably need a 150+ mph car to do that...lol Just putting a few things into perspective. I don't suggest you to try that, but I do have a 150mph car myself to confirm that. It's like a run between by Supra against a low boost supercharged Viper for example. No way I would be able to put 8 lengths on such car at only 140mph...! Perhaps about 160-170 mph then the distance would really show.


The point of this thread, is so that people like myself who doesn't like to drag race a 500+ WHP Honda, can imagine in front of my computer screen of how epic it would be if I can go all out on the highway against a supercar. But you know how the internet is, everything is fake and no one would have the ***** to do anything. Myself included, so it's just a bunch of people dreaming about big power, high MPH and imagining the goodness of bench racing.

 

Pre 08 dodge vipers are a joke btw.

 

Not sure whats wrong with your guys' cars, but i pulled consistently on a 500whp supra up until i let off at around 160mph, which is where my trans is close to topping out. That floating not only comes from the aerodynamics, but also can be aggrivated by worn or cheap suspension parts, tire design, and tire pressure.

 

Please guys, this is not about who can beat what.. It's about taking a higher-end car (aero and gearing to boot) that traps 13X.X MPH, versus another Honda.

Pre '08 Dodge Vipers with boost can be fast, no?

500 WHP Supras can trap 115 mph or 130 mph. Depends on the powerband and whether it has a 6-spd or a 5-spd. Check over Supraforums. Call one out if you want to find out what happens with a 130mph Supra vs 130 mph Honda. But I just happen to be really lucky to have each car in the garage, and just get my bro to go with a cruise with me. I have a 128 mph Camry to tag along too...ROFL

 

Well obviously I mean in stock form lol. I just think its a rediculous having an 8.3L V10 with 500ft lbs of torque for a 5000rpm powerband thats getting annihilated by a 430whp civic (full interior EJ8) with a 2000rpm powerband. (Me vs a buddy here at school)

And your garage is rediculous man lol. Which one is the daily?

 

I think a few people in here are crazy...

With 350whp I have personally watched a 95 hatchback completely annihilate c5 z06's, c6's, stis and evos with more than just bolt-ons. That car would hang with cars that would surprise you, and I'll tell you they had WAY more than the equivalent horsepower... These cars, no matter the year model, are all relatively light when compared to most modern cars.

~400whp+ and above in a civic is a lot of power.

EDIT: Also, wanted to state... IMO anything over 130-135mph is useless. No reason for taking the cars to 180, again, IMO.