ant56

has anyone ever had a problem with the fuzion head gasket ( the one with the silver ring) the reason im asking is because the radiator overflow is boiling over after hard pulls and boiling in the top hose. no white smoke,oil is fine,no oil in water,both hoses get hot,and temp on the dataloger is at 208 max. i changed the cap, bled the radiator with the front jacked up and the heater on... all thats left is the headgasket??.................... this is the setup
http://www.boostedmonkey.com/f...=1125
golden eagle hd sleeve 84 mm
finish bore & hone- 4 cylinder
balance/blueprint rotating assembly 10,000 rpm
chamfer oil hole's & micro performance polish crank
golden eagle main studs / arp head studs
factory oil pump
line bore
oem honda rod bearing's
eagle H beam
cp piston's
cometic phuzion .051 head gasket
1,000 cc injector's
golden eagle sandwich plate
AEM fuel rail and fpr
inline pro turbo manifold
GT35R turbo 4 bolt
3 in downpipe with v-flange
tial 38mm wastgate
elderbrock victor-x intake manifold
obx lsd
ACT 6 puck double extreme
12 lb flywheel
greedy boost controler
crower spring's and retainer's
gsr cam's
bMP breather kit ( from the back of the block )






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Modified by ant56 at 2:53 PM 8/20/2007


Modified by ant56 at 3:03 PM 8/20/2007


Modified by ant56 at 3:04 PM 8/20/2007

DRAGLS

Do you have a stepped deck or flat?

ant56

stepped deck


Modified by ant56 at 9:43 AM 8/20/2007

maddog20

when you boost is the overflow filling up or shooting coolant out?

ant56

the hoses feel like boiling and the aftermarget overflow will spit a lil if too full

ant56

put the front end on the lift again bled the radiator AGAIN for and hour all thats is left is a headgasket.. unless there is a special way to bleed these sleeves.. im guessing that the head gasket only leaks during high cylinder pressure so the water does not have a chanceto enter the chamber. and the air builds up and takes the place of the water..'

ant56

http://www.boostedmonkey.com/f...=1125

maddog20

maybe your running to much timing so your head is lifting and now the Hg is compromised

AWDstylez

Was the head resurfaced and FINISHED correctly for the metal gasket?

mike93eh2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maddog20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe your running to much timing so your head is lifting and now the Hg is compromised</TD></TR></TABLE>

x10

ant56

VERY LOW TIMING .. and low boost only 7 lb's till i figure this out.. and the head had 20thousandths taken off.. the ring is gas filled so it expands with lifting
what head gasket is the best ??? i would rather use stock but that will make my compression 10.1

mike93eh2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ant56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VERY LOW TIMING .. and low boost only 7 lb's till i figure this out.. and the head had 20thousandths taken off.. the ring is gas filled so it expands with lifting
what head gasket is the best ??? i would rather use stock but that will make my compression 10.1</TD></TR></TABLE>

id say get rid of the cometic pHuZSi0N gasket and run a oem. 10.1 isnt that bad, just get a good tuner.

quicksilver1689

cometic phuzion .051 head gasket
What is the oem thickness .033 or something like that?

AWDstylez

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ant56 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VERY LOW TIMING .. and low boost only 7 lb's till i figure this out.. and the head had 20thousandths taken off.. the ring is gas filled so it expands with lifting
what head gasket is the best ??? i would rather use stock but that will make my compression 10.1</TD></TR></TABLE>

The head is supposed to have a certain surface finish for a metal gasket, not just plained.

Leaking aftermarket metal gaskets due to people not having the head surface properly finished is a pretty common occurance.

mike93eh2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AWDstylez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The head is supposed to have a certain surface finish for a metal gasket, not just plained.

Leaking aftermarket metal gaskets due to people not having the head surface properly finished is a pretty common occurance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea any good machine shop will leave your head with a almost mirror like finish when they resurface heads. if it doesnt look like a mirror, you got screwed.

ant56

10.1 isnt thaT BAD just less room to play with.. i duno maybe.. i do have meth injection my goal is 600 hp and we do our own tuning using crome pro with rtp



Modified by ant56 at 5:14 PM 8/20/2007

ant56

and the head was not mirror like....just an odd way to leak.. dosn't burn water. no smoke has anyone delt with there phuzion gasket?

quicksilver1689

nope, HT Believes OEM GASKETS FTW

ant56

i agree... oem is the best my b20vtec turbo has a golden eagle head gasket . its pushing 8lbs at 10.8 compresion and it's been good for a year.. i just want lower compresion

quicksilver1689

maybe you can look into golden eagle headgaskets for this build if there available. Like you stated, the tune is fine, your not pushing is too hard

mike93eh2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quicksilver1689 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe you can look into golden eagle headgaskets for this build if there available. Like you stated, the tune is fine, your not pushing is too hard </TD></TR></TABLE>

golden eagle are just oem gaskets bored out.

ant56

+1

quicksilver1689

dude i would swing for that option in your case then

ant56

i dont want a 600 hp engine with 10.1 compression i want like 9.5

quicksilver1689

If it makes you feel any better
100% stock bottom end
B18C, LS/VTEC:
1. crx=si 605hp, 364tq stock B18C1 TO4R at 26psi Crome-pro with traktek 110


B16:
1. Randys 630whp and 390tq on 118. (10.97@131)