The Bullish racing guys swear by Carrillos.

IMO they look to be on par with Pauters. Either rod would definetly take anything you can throw at them.

 

foe shizzzle

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was told that Kenny and Jotech have broken some Pauters and are now currently using Manleys.
Im still undecided on what rods I will be using. Those Carillos like pretty nice though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You were told wrong. Kenny runs Pauter rods and has not had a failure yet...

 

Thanks, Tony. I knew that was bs but that is how rumors start and spread. I won't say who started it but they were trying to sell Manleys to someone.

 

back from the dead! any more information on these Carrillo h-beam rods and the CARR bolts?? i hear they are the best, but is carrilo's h-beam more precise and bettr then pauters design??

come on earl, we know you love pauters, but give us actual data..

 

i run/ran these in my 2.1L build....VERY light rods (I'm n/a though)....now, if i can just sell the engine

 

some more info please!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i run/ran these in my 2.1L build....VERY light rods (I'm n/a though)....now, if i can just sell the engine </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks buddy

 

Carillo has always made a great rod. It is a hard company to deal with, however. JE Pistons used to be able to sell the rod since they are owned by the same people but now JE won't sell them.
I still have not seen a failure with a Pauter, never seen a rod with better machine work and trust them at any RPM or HP level.

 

I dont see a pic.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Carillo has always made a great rod. It is a hard company to deal with, however. JE Pistons used to be able to sell the rod since they are owned by the same people but now JE won't sell them.
I still have not seen a failure with a Pauter, never seen a rod with better machine work and trust them at any RPM or HP level.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks a lot for clearing tha up for me.. it just sounds better comming from you i guess.?? i know JE acutally makes the carrillo A beams, b/c JE is their sister company.. but i dont know if JE has anything to do with the H-beams??? i would like to know this if anyone has a clue

 

well i finally got my motor back all assembled... it came with all of the individual boxes that the parts came in... the H-beams do infact come boxed by JE, just like the A-beam pro's... ohh well seemed kinda weird to me but the motor looks good... but looks arent everything we will see when it comes time to fire her up..

 

motormatrix mike had aluminum rods in a street car, not these. thats why he threw a rod

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cubish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">motormatrix mike had aluminum rods in a street car, not these. thats why he threw a rod</TD></TR></TABLE>

fred.. im running the Billet steel Carrillo h-beams... i didnt even know they made aluminum rods?? i thought only steel and Titainium... i know BME makes aluminum rods and they swear they will last on the street over 100k miles too!! but they are like $1k per rod...

i was really surpirsed that Carrillo boxed their h-beams in a JE box more then anything also.. im at work right now i dont have the spec sheet but overlooking under the girdle and on the tech sheet that i recieved, i saw that Carrillo uses a 5/16 CARR rod bolt that tourqes to 45ft/lbs not the 3/8 that tourqes to 65ft/lbs??? im going to call Carrillo today and see if they even offer the 3/8 bolt for a honda rod?? i was under the impression that the h-beams came with the 3/8 when i pruchased them, i guess i was missinformed but thats what i told the shop i wanted was the 70ft/lb CARR bolts, but Carrillo might not even offer them..

ill keep yous posted.. b/c i searched and no one really runs this **** due to the price and im the guniee pig... it has been kinda hard for me to find out any cold hard specs about the h-beams.. so im doing this to inform eveyone thinking about running Carrillos, so they can have the real facts just by using the search instead of calling all over the place like i am going to have to do..

 

can you fix the pic please...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by K_Motor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you fix the pic please... </TD></TR></TABLE>

the pic Earl posted was of the Carrillo A-beam pros not the H-Beams... i am talking about the H-beams which is Carrillo's more Beefy and Stronger rod.. i would post a pic up but they are already in my motor lol

the A-Beam pro's look like a crower rod... the H-beams look like eagles.. well actually Eagle copied the Carrillo H-beam design, so Eagle's look like Carrillo's.. b/c Carrillo manufactured it before Eagle... but the Materials Carrillo uses and machining are supposed to be far superior to that of Eagle...

but who knows anymore??? i mean i didnt think Carrillo's top end rod would come in a JE box but it did..


Modified by ManikGSR at 11:57 AM 8/9/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by K_Motor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you fix the pic please... </TD></TR></TABLE>The original post was a year and a half old. I can't host them that long.
Can anyone buy Carillos directly from JE? Benson tried to buy a set from JE and was told they no longer could sell them. You have to buy directly from Carillo. They have no love for anyone at Carillo.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The original post was a year and a half old. I can't host them that long.
Can anyone buy Carillos directly from JE? Benson tried to buy a set from JE and was told they no longer could sell them. You have to buy directly from Carillo. They have no love for anyone at Carillo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Earl that im not really sure.. i would have to ask the shop who they placed the order with.. but the wrong rods are in my block, it was a misshap i hope to get straightened out.. the a-beams ar ein my motor not the h-beams, hence them comming in a JE box.. i already knew th a-beams were licensed out by carrillo to be made by JE.. the H-beams however are a whole diff breed of rods.. its still early in the day bu ti plan to get to the bottom of this..

here is the link to the product catalog direct from carrillo's site:
Carrillo's Parts Catalog

now the A-beam pro part number is:
- "AA-VTC-55433"

the H-beam has 2 diff. part numbers:
- "AA-VTC-65433S" - uses the CARR bolts
- "AA-VTC-65433H" - uses the WMC bolts

i hope this thread helps people wanting to know more information about Carrillo products.. it kinda sucks that more people dont use them b/c of price, when they are really some of the best made products the industry has to offer..



Modified by ManikGSR at 4:56 PM 8/9/2005

 

Earl... i did some more researching,

I called Carrillo and spoke with a salesman and he said that rods can be purchased from both Carrillo and JE.. The JE/Carrillo hybrid H-beam uses the small *** 5/16 CARR bolts that only tq. too 45ft/lbs.. They are custom made with that size bolt by Carrillo for and to JE's specs.. the true and solid Carrillo H-beams directly from them use the 3/8 CARR bolts that tq. to 65 ft/lbs and are inhouse Carrillo's off the shelf rod..

Carrillo rods from Carillo come in a authentic Carrillo Box.. The JE/Carrillo rods come in a JE pistons box...

aslo the difference b/w the CARR bolts and the standard WMC bolts, is that the CARR rod bolts can be tq.'d more then once and used over; where as the WMC are a one time tq.'d bolt.. don't ask me why this is so confusing but it really and truley is... They are a pain in my ******* ***!!


Modified by ManikGSR at 9:12 PM 8/9/2005

 

I don't think that is correct on the one torque only. It does not make any sense. The bolts have to be torqued once at the factory just to size the rods. Then you have to take them on and off a couple of times just to size/plastigage them. Then by the time you do the final install, you have 5 torques minimum.

Also don't fret over the strength of the 5/16" CARR. They are a bad *** bolt.

Interesting about JE selling the Carillos again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twkdCD595 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">didnt motormatrix the scammer break a set already...

btw detonate hard a few times and carillos or not... they will break.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In fact yes they will break. I just snap one of my Pauter rods in my setup not too long ago. I told a few people about this but I guess a rod is a ******* rod! Funny the first and only thing in the block to break was the rod. The CP pistons was still intact within the cylinders.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think that is correct on the one torque only. It does not make any sense. The bolts have to be torqued once at the factory just to size the rods. Then you have to take them on and off a couple of times just to size/plastigage them. Then by the time you do the final install, you have 5 torques minimum.

Also don't fret over the strength of the 5/16" CARR. They are a bad *** bolt.

Interesting about JE selling the Carillos again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well according to Richard @ Carrillo Industires the CARR bolts can be used again... but yea i got it squared away and they will be replaced with the Straight Carrillo H-Beam with the 3/8 bolt at no extra cost now thats ******* customer service...

like i stated before JE cannot sell the 3/8 CARR bolt H-Beam... its a licensing issue, you have to get the h-beam with the 3/8 CARR directly throught Carrillo..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHTZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

In fact yes they will break. I just snap one of my Pauter rods in my setup not too long ago. I told a few people about this but I guess a rod is a ******* rod! Funny the first and only thing in the block to break was the rod. The CP pistons was still intact within the cylinders. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well.. any rod and any motor can break.. nothing in this little honda world we eat, sleep, ****, and race in is indestructable!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ManikGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well.. any rod and any motor can break.. nothing in this little honda world we eat, sleep, ****, and race in is indestructable!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your absoultely right that's why I'm not too fussy for some high dollar aftermarket **** anymore. Anything can break!