Car has been down for some time, now boosted & won't start

Old 04-04-2009 | 02:36 PM
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Default Car has been down for some time, now boosted & won't start

I'm just trying to get some ideas. I didn't stay around and play with it much today so it could be something minor or something I did wrong.

My car has been sitting for quite some time now (over a year)... I got it boosted and now it wont turn over. It will get spark & crank but it just won't turn over. I primed it about 5-8 times & then tried to turn it over. You could hear it wanting to turn over but it just wouldn't.

I put fresh oil in it, fresh gas and all that good stuff. I figured it would take a minute for the fresh gas to go through the system, I tried cranking it about 15 times, each time it would crank it would slowly get better as it was wanting to turn over but I just didn't want to get to excited with it and crank it 340697390457 times and possibly **** something up.

My battery was dead as a rock so I took the battery out of my friend's Integra & put it in mine. It seemed to work all my audio components just fine so I don't think that's the problem. He did say though that it wouldn't start his project EF but it starts his daily driven Integra just fine. Weird.

The car has a stock fuel pump, stock injectors & a stock P28 with a Boomslang OBD2 to OBD1 harness.

I know this is very vague, so start asking away and I will answer to the best of my ability.

Thanks.
Old 04-04-2009 | 05:35 PM
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Was that gas sitting in there for over a year? If so drain that out and get some new gas and try.
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Originally Posted by Trojan Man
I'm just trying to get some ideas. I didn't stay around and play with it much today so it could be something minor or something I did wrong.

My car has been sitting for quite some time now (over a year)... I got it boosted and now it wont turn over. It will get spark & crank but it just won't turn over. I primed it about 5-8 times & then tried to turn it over. You could hear it wanting to turn over but it just wouldn't.

I put fresh oil in it, fresh gas and all that good stuff. I figured it would take a minute for the fresh gas to go through the system, I tried cranking it about 15 times, each time it would crank it would slowly get better as it was wanting to turn over but I just didn't want to get to excited with it and crank it 340697390457 times and possibly **** something up.

My battery was dead as a rock so I took the battery out of my friend's Integra & put it in mine. It seemed to work all my audio components just fine so I don't think that's the problem. He did say though that it wouldn't start his project EF but it starts his daily driven Integra just fine. Weird.

The car has a stock fuel pump, stock injectors & a stock P28 with a Boomslang OBD2 to OBD1 harness.

I know this is very vague, so start asking away and I will answer to the best of my ability.

Thanks.
I drained it prior.
Old 04-04-2009 | 05:52 PM
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Junk the ecu.
Put your obd2 one back in there and try it.

I'll put money on it being a bad chip of dead soldier.

Also, that boomslang harness brand new? I'll never buy a used one because the pins come out when they've been abused.

Your thermostat ground hooked up?
Old 04-04-2009 | 05:53 PM
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just turn the ignition to the on position ten times or so and wait till you hear the fuel pump prime then turn off and back on again, just to make sure the old gas is out of the lines. also if possible use the harness and ecu on a friends car to rule out either as a problem. also it couldnt hurt to put new plugs in it. you also might have to open the throttle a bit when cranking
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Originally Posted by Redcoupe
Junk the ecu.
Put your obd2 one back in there and try it.

I'll put money on it being a bad chip of dead soldier.
The ECU is off my old 95 Civic Coupe that was SOHC Turbo. It was this P28 running with emanage. I'm positive this ECU works. This ECU is not chipped either.

Also, that boomslang harness brand new? I'll never buy a used one because the pins come out when they've been abused.
The harness is out of Shawn's Si.

Your thermostat ground hooked up?
I'm almost positive, tranny has never been pulled but I'll check tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Crx Jimmy
just turn the ignition to the on position ten times or so and wait till you hear the fuel pump prime then turn off and back on again, just to make sure the old gas is out of the lines. also if possible use the harness and ecu on a friends car to rule out either as a problem. also it couldnt hurt to put new plugs in it. you also might have to open the throttle a bit when cranking
I will try to get OEM plugs or barrow a friends. Honda is closed on Sunday.
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Toss some NGK 7's in there.

And trust me. Shawn pulled my harness out my car and we went to plug it back up and my harness was FUBAR'd. Beezy is STILL repairing it.
Old 04-04-2009 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Man
I'm almost positive, tranny has never been pulled but I'll check tomorrow.
Transmissions have nothing to do with thermostat housing grounds.
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Transmissions have nothing to do with thermostat housing grounds.
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Old 04-04-2009 | 10:23 PM
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did you use a test light to confirm that you are getting spark? pull the fuel line off and make sure gas is comming through. Also try testing your map sensor and knock sensors
Old 04-05-2009 | 01:35 AM
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Kind of a random question, but are your sensors hooked up correctly? i.e., MAP, IACV, etc.

Also, have you tried the stock ECU?

And lastly, stock fuel pump?
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Originally Posted by lookout22
did you use a test light to confirm that you are getting spark? pull the fuel line off and make sure gas is comming through. Also try testing your map sensor and knock sensors
No reason for gas not to come through, but anything is possible & I'll check today. Thanks.

Originally Posted by black_EM1
Kind of a random question, but are your sensors hooked up correctly? i.e., MAP, IACV, etc.

Also, have you tried the stock ECU?

And lastly, stock fuel pump?
Sensors are OK, they weren't touched but I'll go over all of them again today just to double check.

Stock ECU is sold because I know this P28 works.

Stock fuel pump was just to get it started. Walbro is in my room along with my clutch and all that good stuff that I'm going to install after I get it running.

Thanks Charles.
Old 04-05-2009 | 07:32 AM
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Not a problem Kyle. I want to see this thing on the road.

Well video of it, I guess.
Old 04-05-2009 | 08:53 AM
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I thought about that, so I have one uploading right now on YouTube. I'll host it when its done. I have a friend over right now that works at Honda trying to mess with it. I'm clueless.
Old 04-05-2009 | 09:17 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONr5kwX3DwA
Old 04-05-2009 | 09:52 AM
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why does your motor jump around like that when your trying to start it maybe need new mounts. 1. check and verify that your getting fuel and spark. 2. make sure the map sensor and tps aren't mixed up. 3. check all of your fuses. 4. also check your distributor and timing.
Old 04-05-2009 | 10:45 AM
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It is priming when it goes you turn the ignition to the "on" position correct?
Old 04-05-2009 | 10:54 AM
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Even if the map sensor wasnt plugged in it would start and just run shitty.

Change the plugs, make sure the fuel pump is priming.
Old 04-05-2009 | 04:26 PM
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I'm keeping my options open and keep trying new things each day.
Old 04-05-2009 | 05:04 PM
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do a barrel roll!
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Man check timing just incase some retard took your dist. off and didn't put it back on correctly.
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Check the main relay
Old 04-06-2009 | 05:48 AM
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prob fowled your plugs out. Put new ones in.
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do a barrel roll!
Old 04-06-2009 | 04:46 PM
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With a friend's battery & I believe the same ECU and jumper harness or a friend's jumper harness & a JDM GSR ecu. I didn't even look at it at the time.

It's def. getting gas. Everytime I try to turn it over, that's all I smell. I'm checking spark tomorrow.

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