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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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i recently wired in my 880's and 3 bar map sensor and my aem ems. and i cant pass 6k rpm, i go to about 5900 and then it starts sputtering and if i keep giving it gas it passed 6k but all messed up. i got the car tuned thinking it was probably the ems and it didnt fix the problem. any suggestions?? maybe i wired the 3bar or 880s wrong??
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Sounds like you're getting too much fuel.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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my tuner said it was at 12.1-12.3 all the way across
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Is your tuner using a wideband O2 sensor? Because if it isn't, it probably can't tell the difference between 12:1 and 2:1. (Which would both return an identical voltage on a narrow-band O2 sensor)
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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yeah , hes using a wideband
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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come on guys help me out!!! could it be i wired the injectors wrong?? i used individual resistors not a resistor box . or did i wire the 3 bar map sensor wrong maybe????
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:15 AM
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got vtec?
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:21 AM
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have you tried another ems?

try logging the errors and see if you see anything...
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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You say you got it tuned, but how did the tuner tune the car w/o it being able to rev past 6000rpm's??
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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yes i have vtec, and when i went to get the car tuned it will still do that but i thought it was something having to do with tuning but i guess i was wrong . so he just tuned up to that point
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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I had a simalar problem and it ended up being my chipped ecu... i cut the jummper on the ecu and it was all good, eventho i was now running the b16 off a p28 i still had vtec and all that...... just a thought.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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hmm... well i've had this problem ever since i put the ems. another thing it could be is my wiring harness was sliced a while back for a vafc. could that be it?
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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sounds like a bad tune.
is your tuner experienced with the aem ems? because if u dont know what your doing it can get kind of complicated
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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yeah, hes known on here to be a good tuner. i got it tuned at church automotive testing.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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jdogg i havent tried antother ems , im got try logging to see what comes up
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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do u have the aem uego also?? if so, just datalog everything and see whats going wrong. use the features of the ems and it will practically fix itself
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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Try lowering the vtec point to 5000...just a thought
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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tried lowering it already.
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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Sounds like your tuner is a moron....How do people trust others to make there cars run good, I dont understand!?!?!?! I go to a dyno but all they do is run the machine, me and my friend make changes and we tune they stand there and look pretty and start the dyno to run it and hand us the sheets so we can see where to make changes.....
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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i would do that too if i had some experience with the ems.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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any more suggestions???
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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did you install the 3 bar before or after you tuned it?

also again, did you guys check and verify base timing to be correct?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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no, i installed them before he tuned it. this is what happened, i got a base map from the aem website for the 880s and the 3 bar. i went to install the injectors and the 3 bar and i put the ems in. the car turned on and ran good but it would cut off after about 5900 rpm. figured it was something to do with tuning or something so i took it to get it tuned and he said it wasnt the tuning. maybe a defective ems ???
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluesi00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe a defective ems ???</TD></TR></TABLE>

doubtful.

Do you have your calibration file handy?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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yeah, i sent it to u already, remember?
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