Skank_aSS_Dara

okay i did my runs this question is no longer valid

stop posting in here


Modified by Skank_aSS_Dara at 1:33 AM 3/27/2005

HiProfile

All it'd allow you to do is run normally-unsafe timing and a bit leaner (reduces detonation if it ran a bit lean). Save the cash you'll spend, or rather waste, on that c12 and put it into the 'funds for a dyno tune' jar. I know for a fact that several dyno tunes cost much less (time AND money) than a hole in a piston.

I won't stop you from trying it, but maybe your motor will? 9psi in a D-series with stock bottom end is already nearing the unsafe threshold, doing it untuned isn't very responsible.

liam821

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I won't stop you from trying it, but maybe your motor will? 9psi in a D-series with stock bottom end is already nearing the unsafe threshold, doing it untuned isn't very responsible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Naw i ran 10-12psi daily on my old sohc/vtec turbo setup. Stock block. At the track id turn it up to 15psi. She held together just fine. Just make sure the tuning is good - or you will get a hole in the side of your block.

But seriously tho, HiProfile is totally right. If the motor isnt tuned well - there is no purpose in putting in race gas and tuning up the boost. You dont wanna blow something up.

liam

flip1199

if it's not tuned for racegas then dont run it on racegas

SOHCmaster

Anything above 109 octane is now leaded fuel and all leaded fuel will distroy O2 sensors in time

liam821

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Yeah - but a few gallons here or there wont really hurt much.

DC2Hybrid1

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Why not?? I run my on 110 every weekend, and it runs alot better than running 93. Running 110 allows me to turn the timing up to where it is supposed to be, if not a little more; if I dont run it I have to leave me timing at 9 degress where it is everyday. Its no fun driving a car with a built motor that cant run to full potential.

Skank_aSS_Dara

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Yeah - but a few gallons here or there wont really hurt much.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea its just a one time thing until it is tuned, its not like im always at the strip with race gas all the time

flip1199

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Why not?? I run my on 110 every weekend, and it runs alot better than running 93. Running 110 allows me to turn the timing up to where it is supposed to be, if not a little more; if I dont run it I have to leave me timing at 9 degress where it is everyday. Its no fun driving a car with a built motor that cant run to full potential.

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well your changing your tune to run that 110. my post was more for the people who change nothing then go to the track and up the boost and run racegas

Skank_aSS_Dara

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well your changing your tune to run that 110. my post was more for the people who change nothing then go to the track and up the boost and run racegas</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm not upping my boost this is my daily driving boost that i setted on my basemap its 9psi eversince i started boosting

flip1199

your car makes the most power on the lowest octane possible without detenating.

Skank_aSS_Dara

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flip1199 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your car makes the most power on the lowest octane possible without detenating.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ahhhh i see, so is this suppose to be like vise-versa from N/A setup to prevent detenation it needs high octane, but for F/I to prevent that it needs the lowest octane?

SOHC_MShue

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Skank_aSS_Dara &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahhhh i see, so is this suppose to be like vise-versa from N/A setup to prevent detenation it needs high octane, but for F/I to prevent that it needs the lowest octane?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no you don't want to run low octane with fi. Your motor would be fucked if you were running some 87

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you can only run 9* timing? What are you on the hack or something?

Drew Peacock

Running the hi octane when drag racing will be a little safer if its free or cheap toss some in the tank it won't hurt.

Skank_aSS_Dara

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no you don't want to run low octane with fi. Your motor would be fucked if you were running some 87
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kinda knew that part somehow but i'd rather ask away anyways


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbozxi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Running the hi octane when drag racing will be a little safer if its free or cheap toss some in the tank it won't hurt. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah this was something i kind of want to hear..... it's only a 1 time thing besides im only going to get like 3 passes, maybe even 4, but until i get my tuning for my uberdata basemap i wouldnt have to ask this question again


-dara

Drew Peacock

Cool, keep an eye on your boost gauge with that wastegate.

Skank_aSS_Dara

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you know it

dornon13

man dont race your car on a basemap you are asking for trouble...dont flirt with destiny...i read a post just the other day about some kid goofin around before it was tuned and ended up picking parts up off the road...just dont do it and save yourself the time, money, and headache...it CAN be fine but why chance it? just my 2 cents man its your car do as you please which i assume you will

Skank_aSS_Dara

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dornon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man dont race your car on a basemap you are asking for trouble...dont flirt with destiny...i read a post just the other day about some kid goofin around before it was tuned and ended up picking parts up off the road...just dont do it and save yourself the time, money, and headache...it CAN be fine but why chance it? just my 2 cents man its your car do as you please which i assume you will</TD></TR></TABLE>

can i see this post?

dornon13

so youre gonna makke me find it haha hold on im a nice guy

edit: there it is https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1184785

Skank_aSS_Dara

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dornon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so youre gonna makke me find it haha hold on im a nice guy

edit: there it is https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1184785</TD></TR></TABLE>

sounded like he's on AFC hack and just got the setup recently done...... im on uber basemap and had my setup for awhile lately

dornon13

your choice

b18prl

i'm running 17 degrees timing with 10psi on 93 octane and where you say your timing was with 112?

dornon13

so you killed your rings at the track? i just saw your classified thread. Better than a blown engine but i wont say i told you so...anyways..did you run the c12?

Skank_aSS_Dara

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dornon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you killed your rings at the track? i just saw your classified thread. Better than a blown engine but i wont say i told you so...anyways..did you run the c12?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah. but good enough for me to come home with a 13.9 pass i would care less about the rings out from the pass i did that night