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Old 04-21-2009, 07:47 PM
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Default built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

soooo.... im very irritated after spending all this f&*king money and only gaining 30whp.
someone else with more knowledge help me clarifying this...


turbonetics 50 trim super V trim, stg 2 turbine wheel@ 22psi


test A: stock bottom end and top end. stock TB and IM.
@ 8.5psi = 236whp


THE BUILD
bottom end sleeved and built (eagle rods, 9:1 cp pistons, darton sleeves)
top end fully built (springs, retainers, valves, brian crower stg 2 cams, cam gears, etc)
skunk2 IM and TB

test B: @ 22psi = 265whp

a/f during boost 11.5-11.8


help me understand why i paid over 10 grand having this build done by a shop to only gain 30whp?
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

post dyno
and perform a compression test
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

that seems almost impossible
Old 04-21-2009, 07:58 PM
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were the cams adjusted at all? that seems ridiculously low..
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

where is the timing at??
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

that seems impossible for 22 psi on a 50 trim
Old 04-21-2009, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Take it back to the shop where you had the work done cause something is NOT right there.
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Originally Posted by action jaction
take it back to the shop where you had the work done cause something is not right there.
+1
Old 04-21-2009, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Def take it back, and be like wtf, fix it
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Clutch slipping whos the tuner and whats he say?
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Agreed. Take that shiet back and tell them to make it right!
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

vac leak?the reason i say that is my car is boosting 10 psi but during a run my vac cam loose and my boost gauge read 20 psi but felt like the same power.

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Old 04-22-2009, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Give them the finger, I would be very mad as well If I were in your situation, Def. Take it back to the shop that built/put it together for you and keep us posted on the situation.

By the way, who tuned it if you mind me asking? Or what's the shops name?
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

need a dyno sheet.

whats ur exhaust setup and turbo manifold setup?
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

$10,000? LOL

why didn't you just buy an evo?
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

1" exhaust?
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Post more information about the rest of your setup, charge pipe diameter, down pipe and exhaust size, intercooler. Also, post a dyno chart!!
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Honestly, I wouldn't try to be all fussy about it when going back to the shop. Gather some information, put a list of questions, right questions to ask when going there.

Patience is the key here. Just becuase you spent mucho mucho $$ on it, doesn't mean a thing. Secondly, you should be able to make over 300 @ 10psi easily with that turbo and motor setup. Question though: Why are you using such a small turbo on such a nice motor setup?

Please take the time to post your dyno chart(s) and I'm sure a number of people here is willing to chime in with helpful information.
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

what did the new setup make at 8.5 psi?

im sure the shop had something to say about it not making the power.
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

gotta be some terrible flowing log manifold choking it up, or something along those lines
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

haha. Classic. +1 on patience and having all your crap together before you go charging back in there. Kinda suprised they let you leave though.
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Seriously though. If I were that shop and you charged back in f-ing this and f-ing that, asking silly questions without factual information, I'd tell you to GTFO and come back when you have your 4-yr old temper under control.

Have you looked at your build-sheet aka "motor blueprint"? Most engine builders who do things properly will document each nut and bolt torque and bearing clearance, not only for your reference, but for their own assurance. This will at least give you an idea if your motor was built improperly (highly doubtful becuase if something was loose, @22psi something would have happened already..shhBANG!).


One more thing, list your other stuff.. injectors, EMS, fuel pump, etc...
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Check to see if your flex in the DP is collapsed, also can you post some screen shots of the timing tables?

What is the purpose of all that motor attaced to that little turbo? Road Course?
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

Definitely in the tune. Check the timing or post the maps here. Sounds like it could be a whole lotta retard.
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Default Re: built boosted b16 @ 22psi = only 265whp?

I dont know the specs on those cams, but I would imagine they are a horrible for your setup. Do you have a set of GSR or ITR Cams you could use?


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