Building a tall deck Dart block
05-31-2005, 12:53 PM
#26
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Bloomington, IN, USA
Posts: 10,180
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes
on
3 Posts
Re: (TrueNorthStar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The "freeze" plugs are not a stock thread, so if you were planning on running an Endyn catch can setup, you cannot use the supplied block fittings. If you look closely at the pic's above, you can see that I ended up using modified 3/4" to -8an fittings. If Earl can find it, I had him take a pick of both fittings side by side.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The block seems to be a mish-mash of BSPT and NPT thread.
If you plan on using AN fittings, it's actually kind of a good thing that they used 3/4" NPT thread for those block plugs since finding metric to AN adapters of that size (M28) is pretty hard and expensive. I just paid $25.00 for a M28 to -12AN Flare aluminum adapter from Z10. I'm glad I only needed one.
And, I can't really tell from the glare on the journals, but are those fillets undercut or rolled?
The block seems to be a mish-mash of BSPT and NPT thread.
If you plan on using AN fittings, it's actually kind of a good thing that they used 3/4" NPT thread for those block plugs since finding metric to AN adapters of that size (M28) is pretty hard and expensive. I just paid $25.00 for a M28 to -12AN Flare aluminum adapter from Z10. I'm glad I only needed one.
And, I can't really tell from the glare on the journals, but are those fillets undercut or rolled?
05-31-2005, 03:27 PM
#28
Honda-Tech Member
Re: (G"UNIT)
i put a tall deck dark block in my car for a weekend a while back.......it would not fit under my 95 coupe hood...i had to put spacers under the hood to make it clear. lots of torque.....unfortunatly i was borrowing it for a race...and since it wasnt mine i didnt push it at all....with a gt35r, 18psi, and only reving it to 8k rpm it still went 10's......gets a 
in my book...........good luck with the rest of the project!
in my book...........good luck with the rest of the project!
06-01-2005, 02:31 AM
#29
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Honolulu, HI, USA
Posts: 3,806
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
nice work earl!!!
thanks for the PM back....lookin' to scrounge up some money for all this. i've got so many parts lying around that haven't been installed yet too :/
=P
thanks for the PM back....lookin' to scrounge up some money for all this. i've got so many parts lying around that haven't been installed yet too :/
=P
06-01-2005, 03:02 PM
#31
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Angeles, Ca., USA
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (IntegraXTR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraXTR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice work earl!!!
thanks for the PM back....lookin' to scrounge up some money for all this. i've got so many parts lying around that haven't been installed yet too :/
=P</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahah this Dart block was has been sitting on my dresser in my room for over a year.
thanks for the PM back....lookin' to scrounge up some money for all this. i've got so many parts lying around that haven't been installed yet too :/
=P</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahah this Dart block was has been sitting on my dresser in my room for over a year.
06-02-2005, 07:35 AM
#32
Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Come to the, DarkSide
Posts: 1,901
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (TrueNorthStar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrueNorthStar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hahah this Dart block was has been sitting on my dresser in my room for over a year. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey i know how you feel on that. Mine was doing the same thing.
hahah this Dart block was has been sitting on my dresser in my room for over a year. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey i know how you feel on that. Mine was doing the same thing.
06-02-2005, 05:27 PM
#33
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ohio, usa
Posts: 2,315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (earl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Detonation happens above the piston, not below it. Oil underneath will not fix a tuning error.
BTW, Dart also makes plugs for the squirters.</TD></TR></TABLE>
right, but with the oil squirting on the piston it would cool it off and limit the chance??
sorry for picking your brain, its that im building a dart also and im torn between the damn squirt or no squirt???
thanks earl
BTW, Dart also makes plugs for the squirters.</TD></TR></TABLE>
right, but with the oil squirting on the piston it would cool it off and limit the chance??
sorry for picking your brain, its that im building a dart also and im torn between the damn squirt or no squirt???
thanks earl
06-02-2005, 07:37 PM
#35
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Re: (fknfast)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fknfast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">right, but with the oil squirting on the piston it would cool it off and limit the chance??
thanks earl</TD></TR></TABLE>
One time when we were on the road with our race car, we lost our tune-up. We had to re-tune but an error caused 10 degrees of extra timing. The car ran great for the first 1000 feet but nosed over at the finish line. We completely melted every piston in a matter of 2 seconds. With the temperature it takes to melt aluminum, a little oil squirting underneath the piston would not help anything.
The squirter was designed by Honda to control the expansion of a tight fitting cast piston. The forged have more clearance and can take much more heat.
thanks earl</TD></TR></TABLE>
One time when we were on the road with our race car, we lost our tune-up. We had to re-tune but an error caused 10 degrees of extra timing. The car ran great for the first 1000 feet but nosed over at the finish line. We completely melted every piston in a matter of 2 seconds. With the temperature it takes to melt aluminum, a little oil squirting underneath the piston would not help anything.
The squirter was designed by Honda to control the expansion of a tight fitting cast piston. The forged have more clearance and can take much more heat.
06-06-2005, 01:57 PM
#37
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ohio, usa
Posts: 2,315
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (SiRkid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
One time when we were on the road with our race car, we lost our tune-up. We had to re-tune but an error caused 10 degrees of extra timing. The car ran great for the first 1000 feet but nosed over at the finish line. We completely melted every piston in a matter of 2 seconds. With the temperature it takes to melt aluminum, a little oil squirting underneath the piston would not help anything.
The squirter was designed by Honda to control the expansion of a tight fitting cast piston. The forged have more clearance and can take much more heat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks so much!!
One time when we were on the road with our race car, we lost our tune-up. We had to re-tune but an error caused 10 degrees of extra timing. The car ran great for the first 1000 feet but nosed over at the finish line. We completely melted every piston in a matter of 2 seconds. With the temperature it takes to melt aluminum, a little oil squirting underneath the piston would not help anything.
The squirter was designed by Honda to control the expansion of a tight fitting cast piston. The forged have more clearance and can take much more heat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks so much!!
06-12-2005, 08:51 PM
#39
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Angeles, Ca., USA
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Jared)
Well heres a little teaser shot of it in the CRX. Mind you I still have alot of work to get done before it is ready....
The tall deck barely hits the webbing of my hood (SIR hood). I cut the webbing out over the valve cover and it fits fine.
The tall deck barely hits the webbing of my hood (SIR hood). I cut the webbing out over the valve cover and it fits fine.
06-13-2005, 06:53 AM
#41
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (TrueNorthStar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrueNorthStar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well heres a little teaser shot of it in the CRX. Mind you I still have alot of work to get done before it is ready....
</TD></TR></TABLE>
now, thats some bling in therrr. . .whats with the honda packages though
</TD></TR></TABLE>
now, thats some bling in therrr. . .whats with the honda packages though
06-13-2005, 07:06 AM
#42
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: arecibo, p.r.
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (4-banging)
we have one in a 93 hb too make it fit we made spacers to set underneth of the original motor mounts but its a good project good luck and any thing i could help with earl halla
06-13-2005, 08:51 AM
#43
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Germany
Posts: 484
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (TrueNorthStar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrueNorthStar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I cut the webbing out over the valve cover and it fits fine.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why don't you get a Moroso valve cover?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why don't you get a Moroso valve cover?
06-13-2005, 07:35 PM
#44
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Angeles, Ca., USA
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (Andre)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andre »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why don't you get a Moroso valve cover?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Its called "running out of money and fast"
Why don't you get a Moroso valve cover?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Its called "running out of money and fast"
06-13-2005, 09:39 PM
#47
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Angeles, Ca., USA
Posts: 1,104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: (nvmyb20hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nvmyb20hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that some sort of heat shield covering that backhousing? it looks crazy</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, its a custom inconel heat shield, I have one for the manifold too, but I still need to hook up a few things before I finish it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">guessing the only reason u have the distributor in there is for the cam positioning sensor???
Looks freaking sick </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup
Yes, its a custom inconel heat shield, I have one for the manifold too, but I still need to hook up a few things before I finish it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">guessing the only reason u have the distributor in there is for the cam positioning sensor???
Looks freaking sick </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yup
