Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (parts from last motor) sorry 56k
04-19-2004, 06:53 PM
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Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (parts from last motor) sorry 56k
for those interested in following what I'm doing...
I'm still waiting for the cherry picker to come in so I can pull the stock block out for Benson sleeves. I plan to use the parts from my other motor that was not sleeved properly, or at least moved twice on me. and also use the built head from that motor which was checked as good by a local machine shop.
what you see are rods from the Crower stroker kit along with JE pistons overbored...
here's the condition of the JE pistons, you can see some wear on the sides. hope they are still good to use...
I will gather the remainding parts and tools needed for when the block gets back from being sleeved and bored to match the JE pistons.
and of course bug you HT pro's with questions along my jurney...
too much crap... can a beginner like me make a working beast motor from two blown motors?
we'll see
for more info on how I got where I am with these motors check out:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=820882
and here's my last built motor mod list (that I was going to sell but am taking parts from instead)
B16A2 block
crower stroker kit to get the 2.0L
Comptech engine rebuild : (second rebuild)
resleeved, bored & honed cylinders
resurfaced, balanced and blue printed
polished crank shaft
custom JE forged pistons (9.0:1)
Moly rings and replaced all bearings
Hot tanked
B16A2 head
Supertech valves and valve seals (iron valve guides)
Type R rocker assembly
GSR cams
Toda springs and retainers
Multi angle valve job
Port & polish
Modified by turbosi03 at 11:06 PM 4/19/2004
I'm still waiting for the cherry picker to come in so I can pull the stock block out for Benson sleeves. I plan to use the parts from my other motor that was not sleeved properly, or at least moved twice on me. and also use the built head from that motor which was checked as good by a local machine shop.
what you see are rods from the Crower stroker kit along with JE pistons overbored...
here's the condition of the JE pistons, you can see some wear on the sides. hope they are still good to use...
I will gather the remainding parts and tools needed for when the block gets back from being sleeved and bored to match the JE pistons.
and of course bug you HT pro's with questions along my jurney...
too much crap... can a beginner like me make a working beast motor from two blown motors?
we'll see
for more info on how I got where I am with these motors check out:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=820882
and here's my last built motor mod list (that I was going to sell but am taking parts from instead)
B16A2 block
crower stroker kit to get the 2.0L
Comptech engine rebuild : (second rebuild)
resleeved, bored & honed cylinders
resurfaced, balanced and blue printed
polished crank shaft
custom JE forged pistons (9.0:1)
Moly rings and replaced all bearings
Hot tanked
B16A2 head
Supertech valves and valve seals (iron valve guides)
Type R rocker assembly
GSR cams
Toda springs and retainers
Multi angle valve job
Port & polish
Modified by turbosi03 at 11:06 PM 4/19/2004
04-19-2004, 07:34 PM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (envision2teg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks good.
wish i had the time to do a project like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah tell me about it man... on top of all this, I'm also getting married in less then a month! (to my avatar )
wish i had the time to do a project like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah tell me about it man... on top of all this, I'm also getting married in less then a month! (to my avatar
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04-19-2004, 08:03 PM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (m R g S r)
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (parts from last motor) sorry 56k (turbosi03)
the scuffing on the side of the piston is not normal wear. anybody else think so?
04-20-2004, 06:05 AM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (SEFIxCivic)
haha, thanks guys... they are both great, but both can be a pain in the *** also. definately worth it all in the end of course...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SEFIxCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the scuffing on the side of the piston is not normal wear. anybody else think so?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah I'm worried about this, I really hope I don't have to buy more pistons, running out of money fast. does anyone else have any input about this?
all the pistons have simular wear (both sides), this was the worst of them. I'm wondering if it's because the sleeves moved unevenly...? I took a quick measurement of the piston skirt and it seems to be not perfectly round. maybe I did not have the caliper centered but the diameter perpendicular to the wear sides was less by about 20 thousanths or so... I plan to send them to Earl to check them out for sure.
are these pistons ok, or can they be saved?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SEFIxCivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the scuffing on the side of the piston is not normal wear. anybody else think so?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah I'm worried about this, I really hope I don't have to buy more pistons, running out of money fast. does anyone else have any input about this?
all the pistons have simular wear (both sides), this was the worst of them. I'm wondering if it's because the sleeves moved unevenly...? I took a quick measurement of the piston skirt and it seems to be not perfectly round. maybe I did not have the caliper centered but the diameter perpendicular to the wear sides was less by about 20 thousanths or so... I plan to send them to Earl to check them out for sure.
are these pistons ok, or can they be saved?
04-20-2004, 08:21 AM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (turbosi03)
I want to hear what Earl says when he gets them. When are you sending them out to Earl?
I see a B16a with torque (for once, lol) in the near future
You should be making more torque than a B18b and have a nicer powerband with this setup!
I see a B16a with torque (for once, lol) in the near future
You should be making more torque than a B18b and have a nicer powerband with this setup!
04-20-2004, 06:17 PM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (0x64)
haha yeah I hope to see loads of torque...
the plan is to send out the pistons with the block... hopefully I can get the block out of the car this weekend, and finish striping it.
the plan is to send out the pistons with the block... hopefully I can get the block out of the car this weekend, and finish striping it.
04-20-2004, 06:38 PM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (turbosi03)
Maybe you could look into coating the skirts to increase the lubricity, cut down on the scuffing, and take up some of the lost clearance.
04-21-2004, 06:54 AM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (IN VTEC)
Damn, i thught you got that avatar from a **** site. Dayum, i just hope shes as nice a person as she looks... those are hard to come by... good luck man . And I want to see this car when its done, Im not too far away from where you are
. And I want to see this car when its done, Im not too far away from where you are
04-21-2004, 08:24 AM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (IN VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IN VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe you could look into coating the skirts to increase the lubricity, cut down on the scuffing, and take up some of the lost clearance.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't think about that. Swain Tech has a PC-9 coating that runs $39.00/piston. That includes domes and skirts. They also have the option for only the skirt which runs $18.00/piston.
I didn't think about that. Swain Tech has a PC-9 coating that runs $39.00/piston. That includes domes and skirts. They also have the option for only the skirt which runs $18.00/piston.
04-21-2004, 09:25 AM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (0x64)
hmm, I asked Earl about coating the pistons, he said it sounds like a good idea but doesn't know how long it lasts...
anyone use this coating on their pistons? seems cheap enough to try... whats your take on it?
anyone use this coating on their pistons? seems cheap enough to try... whats your take on it?
04-21-2004, 10:47 AM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (turbosi03)
pistons shouldn't scuff...they should never touch the side walls....bad sleeves, metal shaving in oil could cause that.....
if the pistons aren't out of round you should be okay
if the pistons aren't out of round you should be okay
04-21-2004, 11:09 AM
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Yeah man posts the dyno when she is done. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The girl's dyno or the car's dyno?
//exit thread in shame
Yeah man posts the dyno when she is done. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The girl's dyno or the car's dyno?
//exit thread in shame
04-21-2004, 12:26 PM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (CRX T-Si)
my girl can out perform my car for sure, I dont need a dyno to know that... 
so anyway, before my girl inherently thread jacks me again, does anyone else have any comments about coating the pistons?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrchaos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pistons shouldn't scuff...they should never touch the side walls....bad sleeves, metal shaving in oil could cause that.....
if the pistons aren't out of round you should be okay</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah the JE's were in a block with bad sleeves... **** I hope they are not out of round
so anyway, before my girl inherently thread jacks me again, does anyone else have any comments about coating the pistons?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrchaos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pistons shouldn't scuff...they should never touch the side walls....bad sleeves, metal shaving in oil could cause that.....
if the pistons aren't out of round you should be okay</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah the JE's were in a block with bad sleeves... **** I hope they are not out of round
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (turbosi03)
Maybe you could ask Tbone about skirt coatings. From what I've read of his posts, he probably has enough experience and observation with coatings in general to offer some bit of useful info....if he doesn't mind being bothered.
The OEM moly coatings on the P73 and PCT pistons does wear off after a while. It comes off even if you hot tank the pistons. That's the best I can offer.
The OEM moly coatings on the P73 and PCT pistons does wear off after a while. It comes off even if you hot tank the pistons. That's the best I can offer.
04-21-2004, 01:47 PM
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (turbosi03)
The scuff on his skirts are from JG sleeves that sunk 
Dustin, call 585-889-2786. Shipping from your area should be $5.00 - $8.00 to them. Also, ask them how long the skirt coating lasts. I know they last quite a bit longer than the dome coating but ...
Dustin, call 585-889-2786. Shipping from your area should be $5.00 - $8.00 to them. Also, ask them how long the skirt coating lasts. I know they last quite a bit longer than the dome coating but ...
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Re: Building 2.0L b16a2 myself this time... (0x64)
great, thanks for the info guys!
the hoist came in I just put it together, christ this thing is heavy... no wonder I paid $110 shipping...
glad I got the fold up one, it's still going to be a bitch to get this thing around to the front of the car...
the hoist came in
I just put it together, christ this thing is heavy... no wonder I paid $110 shipping...glad I got the fold up one, it's still going to be a bitch to get this thing around to the front of the car...