build up questions. . . more boost.
04-15-2003, 05:47 AM
#1
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
build up questions. . . more boost.
im gonna build it real soon ,s tart collecting parts this week .
my question is , what kinda pwoer and boost will my turbo and injectors max out at ?
i know its hard to say , but a general idea?
i have the Garett t3/04e 60 trim .63 ar
and rc 550's
standard drag piping
im curious how much more boost i cna put thru it and stay efficient and still make loads of power.
im gonna rebuild prob for , Weisco 10:1, eagle rods, Darton sleeves, . . whats yall think about that set up , comments welcome
my question is , what kinda pwoer and boost will my turbo and injectors max out at ?
i know its hard to say , but a general idea?
i have the Garett t3/04e 60 trim .63 ar
and rc 550's
standard drag piping
im curious how much more boost i cna put thru it and stay efficient and still make loads of power.
im gonna rebuild prob for , Weisco 10:1, eagle rods, Darton sleeves, . . whats yall think about that set up , comments welcome
04-15-2003, 06:08 AM
#2
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (itr206)
Do you have a standalone? I would say the injectors are good for 350WHP and the turbocharger is good for 410+WHP.
04-15-2003, 06:11 AM
#3
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (0x64)
damn thats it ? ahhh horse **** . i can prob get 350 without even rebuilding the motor . . . im depressed now . i have hondata 4b
04-15-2003, 06:44 AM
#4
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: T ToWn
Posts: 967
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (itr206)
They will hold more then that...Cybernation is running a t3/t04 with a huge rebuild and "rc 440 cc injectors" and they are making 500+@20psi...
They will hold..
They will hold..
04-15-2003, 07:01 AM
#5
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (T3)
ahhhhhhh, thats what i like to hear.
you think its worth it for darton sleeves or should i roll with something else?
i would love to at least get mid to high 400's , if not 500, ahhh that would be sweet .
you think its worth it for darton sleeves or should i roll with something else?
i would love to at least get mid to high 400's , if not 500, ahhh that would be sweet .
04-15-2003, 07:08 AM
#6
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (T3)
Pete, your 550cc were at 60% duty cycle when we were tuning. Your going to hit the limits at 350-375whp of the injectors. People are able to get 440cc to work with such high boost level since they increase the fuel pressure through the roof. This not only prematurely ruins the injectors, but the spray pattern isnt as good and eventually you will develop leaks in your fuel system if the pressure is high enough.
The turbo is good to around 450whp. The 60 trim is very efficient to around 24psi. The next largest turbo you can use is the 60-1. I have a brand new one at my house if you are interested. That can support 550whp, and will be efficient till around 28lbs.
Also, your intercooler wont be efficient past 350-375whp range. You'll need to get a larger core. I'd recommend the pwr cores, best for the money. Your intercooler piping will be fine for 600+whp, the piping size is not the restriction. If you do go with the whole rebuild a 3" dp and 3" exhaust are going to give you really noticable gains at the higher boost levels.
The turbo is good to around 450whp. The 60 trim is very efficient to around 24psi. The next largest turbo you can use is the 60-1. I have a brand new one at my house if you are interested. That can support 550whp, and will be efficient till around 28lbs.
Also, your intercooler wont be efficient past 350-375whp range. You'll need to get a larger core. I'd recommend the pwr cores, best for the money. Your intercooler piping will be fine for 600+whp, the piping size is not the restriction. If you do go with the whole rebuild a 3" dp and 3" exhaust are going to give you really noticable gains at the higher boost levels.
04-15-2003, 07:13 AM
#7
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (boosted hybrid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Pete, your 550cc were at 60% duty cycle when we were tuning. Your going to hit the limits at 350-375whp of the injectors. People are able to get 440cc to work with such high boost level since they increase the fuel pressure through the roof. This not only prematurely ruins the injectors, but the spray pattern isnt as good and eventually you will develop leaks in your fuel system if the pressure is high enough.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wasn't trying to make a point of this but this is what I was trying to say
Pete, your 550cc were at 60% duty cycle when we were tuning. Your going to hit the limits at 350-375whp of the injectors. People are able to get 440cc to work with such high boost level since they increase the fuel pressure through the roof. This not only prematurely ruins the injectors, but the spray pattern isnt as good and eventually you will develop leaks in your fuel system if the pressure is high enough.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wasn't trying to make a point of this but this is what I was trying to say
Trending Topics
04-15-2003, 07:25 AM
#8
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (0x64)
damn well i guess, ill just do the rebuild of the motor for safety and wheni et more money ill do all the other **** down the line .
im just worried about the block giving up on me . so i want to reinforce it and know that i can up the boost downt he line when i want . . this 8psi and being scared of upping it is getting old . i want real boost
im just worried about the block giving up on me . so i want to reinforce it and know that i can up the boost downt he line when i want . . this 8psi and being scared of upping it is getting old . i want real boost
04-15-2003, 07:58 AM
#9
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (itr206)
Your block will be able to handle the boost. It's up to you if you want to resleeve it or not. I have seen people make impressive power on stock sleeves. I have a buddy right now making 335.5FWHP on his 00 ITR (stock sleeves, ENDYN 9.0:1 pistons and Eagle rods).
04-15-2003, 08:18 AM
#10
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (0x64)
yea im looking for more thna that though. i want well inot the 400's without probs.
my car is choked downby the exuast and dp and after 12 runs pulled almost 300 whp , i plan on jumping up real soon with my e cutout.
my car is choked downby the exuast and dp and after 12 runs pulled almost 300 whp , i plan on jumping up real soon with my e cutout.
04-15-2003, 08:31 AM
#11
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A Place in, Florida, USA
Posts: 7,277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (itr206)
Nothing that a three inch downpipe and three inch exhaust pipes couldn't help. CheezeFrog made 450+ on stock sleeves. That would be pushing it with me. I'm shooting for 400+WHP but my block was resleeved, bored and o-ringed by GEM (I also have 756cc injectors, 255lph high pressure fuel pump, etc., etc.).
04-15-2003, 08:36 AM
#12
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Re: build up questions. . . more boost. (0x64)
sweet, ill be there one day, gotta either start bangin rock or become a gigalo hahahahaha.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mephistopheles
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
5
02-15-2021 05:17 PM
EK9 BEEZLER
Forced Induction
2
09-12-2005 10:08 AM