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Old 11-19-2007, 09:17 AM
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First, I'd like to thank LJ at full blown for giving me the time and opportunity to use his shop space and his Garrett turbo for comparison's sake. I wanted to take the housings off but I don't think LJ would've allowed so I didn't. These pictures are for physical size comparison only. The turbos are a Garrett gt4294r and a Borg Warner/Airwerks S372 with the standard cover. I wish I had a race cover to compare with because I know they are larger than the standard cover but I hope this will do for now and help you choose a manifold that will accommodate these two turbos because they are different in small ways.

garrett on left, BW on right



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BAULIN!

So which turbo did you decide on using?
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That S372 is one hell of a turbo...stick a K03 next to those two
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Dang that must be some strong glass!
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42r B-series, S300



S372 H-series, S300




both cars have more in them.


both are awesome turbo's. i really want to try a S372 on my car next year.
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I chose the cheaper way out. I know I know but money does play a big factor in this game. for me at least.

the S372 is mine
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Take the covers off, to show the differences in the compressor wheel designs. Then you'll see they are more like "cousins", than brothers
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I wanted to but didn't feel right asking him. I will do mine tonight if someone is willing to pull the covers off of their 42r
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S372

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">S372

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So you dont think with a gt42r you could have ran that?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18c1turboedEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So you dont think with a gt42r you could have ran that? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have heard that the BW flows a bit more.
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price difference between the two?
Old 11-19-2007, 11:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BOOSTIN1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">price difference between the two?</TD></TR></TABLE>

basically half the price GT42R like $2200 and BW 372 is like $1500
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18c1turboedEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So you dont think with a gt42r you could have ran that? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I ran a 42r for 2 years and never even came close to that. I know for a fact that the 372 makes more power, i also had to buy a bigger fuel pump when i switched.
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Time for a GT4202 tony
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I ran a 42r for 2 years and never even came close to that. I know for a fact that the 372 makes more power, i also had to buy a bigger fuel pump when i switched.</TD></TR></TABLE>Did you have liberty gearset with 42R?
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Anyone else notice that the dyno graphs are really hard to compare for the curve?
The S372 dyno graph has the speed, but no rpm. Can you provide one?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94turboeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you have liberty gearset with 42R?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, i ran indy with the exact same setup i have now besides the turbo. I went 9.43 @ 156 and 9.51 @ 157.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes, i ran indy with the exact same setup i have now besides the turbo. I went 9.43 @ 156 and 9.51 @ 157.</TD></TR></TABLE>Except the headlight out.
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Went 162 in pomona with the headlight in.

Not sure what you're getting at, but i know 100% for a fact that this turbo makes more power than a 4294R.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcturbols &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone else notice that the dyno graphs are really hard to compare for the curve?
The S372 dyno graph has the speed, but no rpm. Can you provide one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That and the .4L extra of displacement. It must be a 2.0 GSR... because of the simliarities in torque. That or the H series was running less aggressive timing than the gsr.
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Paul, that's one big bitch. I'll hope my weight advantage can make up for my 60-1. haha.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Went 162 in pomona with the headlight in.

Not sure what you're getting at, but i know 100% for a fact that this turbo makes more power than a 4294R. </TD></TR></TABLE>Your his the man that knows his stuff at the end of the day.
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Your his the man?????
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94turboeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your his the man that knows his stuff at the end of the day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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