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Old 12-18-2005, 07:55 PM
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Ok well on the way home from the dyno, i did a couple of pulls and on one of the pulls, i broke an axle when i shifted from 3rd to 4th. On the passenger side, i broke the spindle on the axle and it is stuck in the tranny. So i decided to try to push the broken piece in the tranny from the opposite way. In order to do that, i have to take the other side out (driver side, halfshaft). Usually the whole assembly is easy to take out but it seems like the halfshaft is stuck in there. i tried hammering it out, i tried putting the halfshaft back on the block and loosening the tranny bolts so that the tranny can move off the block, and i tried having 1421 people pull on it, and still no luck. only thing i can think of is taking the tranny off and try taking it out then.

do you think anything broke inside the tranny which is causing the halfshaft to be siezed? i have a itr tranny with oem lsd btw.

here's a picture for entertainment, this is when i broke the axle and was stuck on the freeway.
Old 12-18-2005, 08:06 PM
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oh damn, sorry to hear.
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Default Re: Broke axle from shifting to 3rd to 4th, now halfshaft is stuck in tranny what to do now? (SEFIxC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SEFIxCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh damn, sorry to hear. </TD></TR></TABLE>

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE TUNE ANDY! I was just having too much fun with the car. haha
Old 12-18-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Broke axle from shifting to 3rd to 4th, now halfshaft is stuck in tranny what to do now? (SEFIxC

if im reading it correctly you probably need to take out the tranny to fix it...

you are saying that the inner axle stub broke off in and its stuck in the diff right?
Old 12-18-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Broke axle from shifting to 3rd to 4th, now halfshaft is stuck in tranny what to do now? (SEFIxC

yeah i was planning to take off the tranny, but i was hoping to see if i can pull it off without taking the tranny off.

yeah it's stuck in the diff. so thats why i want to take off the halfshaft side so i can pound the one that's stuck out.
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Default Re: Broke axle from shifting to 3rd to 4th, now halfshaft is stuck in tranny what to do now? (SEFIxC

ic, that is really strange that it is stuck in there. as there is no c clip on the intermediate axle holding it in.. i think you need to perhaps hammer the intermediate axle out with a heavier hammer, like a mini sledge.
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Default Re: Broke axle from shifting to 3rd to 4th, now halfshaft is stuck in tranny what to do now? (SEFIxC

OMG your car must be putting down some nice #s... Im gonna have to 2nd the tranny pull just to make sure that you get it all out.... BTW ur car is SEX in that photo right there..... :drool:

good luck

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question now is why is the halfshaft all of a sudden "siezed" in the diff?
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Maybe fit a zipgun in there?
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where am i suppose to hit it though?
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Any pics of the breakage? Is there nothing sticking out of the diff to grab on to pull it out? Maybe if the only thing left in the diff was the splined part...it went inside the tranny far enough to get jammed somehow and not lined up with the spines anymore?
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Why not try removing the other axles and smacking the broken part out from the other side?
Old 12-19-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Broke axle from shifting to 3rd to 4th, now halfshaft is stuck in tranny what to do now? (SEFIxC

thats what he said he wanted to do but he can't do it because the other side is also stuck in there, he wants to know how to get it out, which i would say if you cant beat it out while its in the car then you're probably going to have to take it out of the car to get it out.

sorry bout the luck hope everything goes well
Old 12-19-2005, 11:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Civic93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats what he said he wanted to do but he can't do it because the other side is also stuck in there, he wants to know how to get it out, which i would say if you cant beat it out while its in the car then you're probably going to have to take it out of the car to get it out.

sorry bout the luck hope everything goes well</TD></TR></TABLE>

Opps, didnt see that..
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Default Re: Broke axle from shifting to 3rd to 4th, now halfshaft is stuck in tranny what to do now? (SEFIxC

My friends D16 turbo did this, i eventually got enough to force to get the joint out and the circlip on the end had manged to pop free from teh set ring over the snout of the splines so essentially i had to apply enough force to squash the metal circlip

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get a pic of it!
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Default Re: (undercoverdc2)

The tranny is out and i've been hammering the halfshaft for the longest time and still no progress. I'm going to try to get my friends sledgehammer haha. Here are the pictures:



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I think your going to have to drill and tap that broken part out, then make some kind of puller to pull it out..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think your going to have to drill and tap that broken part out, then make some kind of puller to pull it out..</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hear that metal is very hard to drill through though.
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i hear that metal is very hard to drill through though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Might be your only option..
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Call me up if you need more man power.
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just weld a bolt to it and use a slide hammer. my 2c, good luck
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what we do at our shop is the same, weld the slide hammer piece to it with a MIG, then out she SHOULD come
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andrew ill be over later to try to get that **** out
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you may have broke the diff......


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