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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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that is the question.... b18c jdm gsr. Going to run turbo. going to get JE pistons, and Crower rods. Can i just slap in the pistons and rods? How do i determine if i need to overbore or not?

Ran the turbo on the stock gsr for like 300 miles and the piston rings were gone.... should i be worried about the cylinder walls?


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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Its better to do the job right one time than to do it wrong over and over. Pull it and take it to a respectable machine shop. If you wasted the internals there is a good chance you mushroom shaped the cylinder walls.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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what's your definition of wasting the internals? because physically the pistons and rods were fine, it was just the pisont rings that went bad. Does that count as wasting the internals?
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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How many miles on the motor? What is your setup? If it's a low mileage motor for a very mild setup, maybe you can get away with re-ring the motor. Remember, the most expensive part of the build up is the labour. So I won't cheap out on parts. Get it overbored if I were you.
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMB16ACRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what's your definition of wasting the internals? because physically the pistons and rods were fine, it was just the pisont rings that went bad. Does that count as wasting the internals?</TD></TR></TABLE>


If the ring were shot to begin with than no. But if the turbo is what caused the failure then it is quite possible to damage the block also. Without a bore gauge you will never know. That is unitl your new motor you just built begins to smoke.

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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by green_GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How many miles on the motor? What is your setup? If it's a low mileage motor for a very mild setup, maybe you can get away with re-ring the motor. Remember, the most expensive part of the build up is the labour. So I won't cheap out on parts. Get it overbored if I were you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the motor has about 40k, but basically we're going to go with aftermarket pistons and rods... labor is no biggy cuz i've done a dozen of these, the only thing that i don't understand is whether to bore or not, and if i do...how much? etc. etc.
Usually when we do this, we've never had to bore, but this motor is gonna see at least 15lbs of boost on a regular basis, not daily, but regularly.

Setup...hm... t3/t4 turbo with all the goodies involved, going towards je pistons & crower rods (don't know CR yet), leaning toward a block guard ( i know how some of u feel about it), 450cc inj. 255lp fuel pump, aem rail, b&m regulator, fluidyne radiator & fal fan, heading towards hondata, but yea...

Fullthrottle: so basically i need to have a machine shop look at it?

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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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If you are going through all the work of building it up its not much more of a hassle to have the block looked at. Its worth it to know that its right on the inside.
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