boosting a b18b
10-22-2003, 08:16 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (PUSHER)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PUSHER »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm sure there are legends of 20+psi, it all depends on how you tune, id say 8psi with a safc and 12-14psi with hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI
10-22-2003, 08:24 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Hammett)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hammett »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what he means is tuning... </TD></TR></TABLE>
i c....... but tunning is expensive, and i dont think rkn527 wants to spend much, as in the original post he/she said max psi with stock settings.
i c....... but tunning is expensive, and i dont think rkn527 wants to spend much, as in the original post he/she said max psi with stock settings.
10-22-2003, 08:31 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Navid OG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your wrong...
I've heard and seen that the number one reason why motors blow, is not because the rods, pistons or actual motor couldn't handle it. It was because their wasn't the right amount of fuel present for the amount of psi being forced in the motor. The motor leans out, and boom there goes the motor.
Hondata will allow the tuner to raise the limits of psi by controlling the fuel. So it runs like a factory turbo car. There are MANY people on the board that have boosted stock block motors beyound 10 psi, especially the LS motors and are fine. They run hondata or other fuel management system.
Jinxproff ran 11's on a stock longblock b18c1, with 14-16 psi of boost. With only larger injectors, headgasket, and few other things. Very impressive.
Also, the size of the turbo maters, a small turbo boosting 18psi, is not the same as a larger one boosting 18psi. Bottom line, their are people who have pushed the limits of their stock motors, producing well over 400hp.... 8 psi is definately not the max, but to the person asking the question, since their are so many variables that need to be accounted for, such as turbo size and the big fuel management question. 8 psi is a good area to start in with a realitively simple fuel setup. It can be pushed way beyond that, but you need to add more stuff into to insure that it runs properly.
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your wrong...
I've heard and seen that the number one reason why motors blow, is not because the rods, pistons or actual motor couldn't handle it. It was because their wasn't the right amount of fuel present for the amount of psi being forced in the motor. The motor leans out, and boom there goes the motor.
Hondata will allow the tuner to raise the limits of psi by controlling the fuel. So it runs like a factory turbo car. There are MANY people on the board that have boosted stock block motors beyound 10 psi, especially the LS motors and are fine. They run hondata or other fuel management system.
Jinxproff ran 11's on a stock longblock b18c1, with 14-16 psi of boost. With only larger injectors, headgasket, and few other things. Very impressive.
Also, the size of the turbo maters, a small turbo boosting 18psi, is not the same as a larger one boosting 18psi. Bottom line, their are people who have pushed the limits of their stock motors, producing well over 400hp.... 8 psi is definately not the max, but to the person asking the question, since their are so many variables that need to be accounted for, such as turbo size and the big fuel management question. 8 psi is a good area to start in with a realitively simple fuel setup. It can be pushed way beyond that, but you need to add more stuff into to insure that it runs properly.
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10-23-2003, 07:27 AM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Hammett)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hammett »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he said stock motor.. do some research this topic has been covered many many times.</TD></TR></TABLE>
THANK YOU...... and the final answer is 8 psi..
THANK YOU...... and the final answer is 8 psi..
10-23-2003, 08:06 AM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
my buddy ran 10 psi daily driven on a rev hard kit....
motor had like 100,000 when he first boosted it....
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sorry no engine management stock ecu...just 310 injectors and whatever came with the rev hard kit...
motor had like 100,000 when he first boosted it....
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sorry no engine management stock ecu...just 310 injectors and whatever came with the rev hard kit...
10-23-2003, 08:10 AM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Navid OG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your pretty wrong my friend. I run 11psi Everyday. 8psi is for people who are scared od boost. Not really but your wrong.
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your pretty wrong my friend. I run 11psi Everyday. 8psi is for people who are scared od boost. Not really but your wrong.
10-23-2003, 08:17 AM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Navid OG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8 psi</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow. I hope your kidding. If not you are very misinformed. Time and time again this topic comes up. Boost is irrelevant. Do a search.
Wow. I hope your kidding. If not you are very misinformed. Time and time again this topic comes up. Boost is irrelevant. Do a search.
10-23-2003, 08:25 AM
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Re: boosting a b18b (highmilehatch)
Eg(6)R coudlnt have said it better.
You psi is going to differ from different size turbo's and fuel setup. Here is an average
FMU/inline setup= most poeple run 7-8 psi
hondata/ems/ect..= most poeple run between 10-13 psi.
These are averages, there are those who exceed the limits, but there are other variables that come into play like, tuner, turbo size, compression.
You psi is going to differ from different size turbo's and fuel setup. Here is an average
FMU/inline setup= most poeple run 7-8 psi
hondata/ems/ect..= most poeple run between 10-13 psi.
These are averages, there are those who exceed the limits, but there are other variables that come into play like, tuner, turbo size, compression.
10-23-2003, 10:41 AM
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Re: boosting a b18b (quikB18B)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quikB18B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Eg(6)R coudlnt have said it better.
You psi is going to differ from different size turbo's and fuel setup. Here is an average
FMU/inline setup= most poeple run 7-8 psi
hondata/ems/ect..= most poeple run between 10-13 psi.
These are averages, there are those who exceed the limits, but there are other variables that come into play like, tuner, turbo size, compression.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i agree 100% ..... and the person asking this question falls into the FMU/inline setup thus most people run 7-8 psi...... he does not have hondata, and that was not his question.
You psi is going to differ from different size turbo's and fuel setup. Here is an average
FMU/inline setup= most poeple run 7-8 psi
hondata/ems/ect..= most poeple run between 10-13 psi.
These are averages, there are those who exceed the limits, but there are other variables that come into play like, tuner, turbo size, compression.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i agree 100% ..... and the person asking this question falls into the FMU/inline setup thus most people run 7-8 psi...... he does not have hondata, and that was not his question.
10-23-2003, 12:35 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (rkn527)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rkn527 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am in the process of boosting my b18b what is max boost on stock motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
read up there. depending on your fuel 8-13psi. what year is it obd1 or 2. the more the better
read up there. depending on your fuel 8-13psi. what year is it obd1 or 2. the more the better
10-23-2003, 12:39 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Burke)
I ran 12.5 LBs on S-AFC and 440cc injectors, stock LS motor.
Like most people say, there are a lot of variables involved. Size of the turbo, fuel & timing management, age of the motor, etc ...
Like most people say, there are a lot of variables involved. Size of the turbo, fuel & timing management, age of the motor, etc ...
10-23-2003, 02:40 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (CRV Monster)
i'm running .55 bar (8.5 psi?) no problems yet. oh yeah, untuned. talk to direp972, he ran crazy boost (11- 12 psi) on a stock b18b.
10-23-2003, 03:26 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Navid OG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i agree 100% ..... and the person asking this question falls into the FMU/inline setup thus most people run 7-8 psi...... he does not have hondata, and that was not his question.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here's the original post:
i am in the process of boosting my b18b what is max boost on stock motor
Does he state that he's running an fmu/inline setup? No, he is asking what the stock block can handle, he gives no inclination whatsoever of the fuel setup he's running so that's why there are a wide range of answers. We can't assume that everyone is running the inline/fmu setup just because the block isn't built.
Since when does a stock motor mean fmu/inline setup?
i agree 100% ..... and the person asking this question falls into the FMU/inline setup thus most people run 7-8 psi...... he does not have hondata, and that was not his question.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here's the original post:
i am in the process of boosting my b18b what is max boost on stock motor
Does he state that he's running an fmu/inline setup? No, he is asking what the stock block can handle, he gives no inclination whatsoever of the fuel setup he's running so that's why there are a wide range of answers. We can't assume that everyone is running the inline/fmu setup just because the block isn't built.
Since when does a stock motor mean fmu/inline setup?
10-23-2003, 03:42 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (EG(6)SR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG(6)SR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Here's the original post:
i am in the process of boosting my b18b what is max boost on stock motor
Does he state that he's running an fmu/inline setup? No, he is asking what the stock block can handle, he gives no inclination whatsoever of the fuel setup he's running so that's why there are a wide range of answers. We can't assume that everyone is running the inline/fmu setup just because the block isn't built.
Since when does a stock motor mean fmu/inline setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ohhhhhh dear...... have u heard of sarcasim???? i was punking that guy for not relating at all......
Here's the original post:
i am in the process of boosting my b18b what is max boost on stock motor
Does he state that he's running an fmu/inline setup? No, he is asking what the stock block can handle, he gives no inclination whatsoever of the fuel setup he's running so that's why there are a wide range of answers. We can't assume that everyone is running the inline/fmu setup just because the block isn't built.
Since when does a stock motor mean fmu/inline setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ohhhhhh dear...... have u heard of sarcasim???? i was punking that guy for not relating at all......
10-23-2003, 03:43 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
everyone is saying Hondata, or Fuel Management......... while the question is asking: with stock setup ........ the setup is stock and my answer is 8 PSI
10-23-2003, 04:15 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Navid OG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI</TD></TR></TABLE>
You even said what does hondata have to do with anything! what the hell does 8psi mean? 8psi on a 60-1 or 8psi on a t25? Stop giving wrong information. BTW: 1 Bar here...Stock engine.
what does Hondata have to do with anything?????? its all about his pistons, and comprassion ratio....... stock he can run 20 PSI but he will **** up his pistons...... trust me stock no more than 8 PSI</TD></TR></TABLE>
You even said what does hondata have to do with anything! what the hell does 8psi mean? 8psi on a 60-1 or 8psi on a t25? Stop giving wrong information. BTW: 1 Bar here...Stock engine.
10-23-2003, 04:19 PM
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Re: boosting a b18b (Navid OG)
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THANK YOU...... and the final answer is 8 psi..</TD></TR></TABLE>
WOW.
THANK YOU...... and the final answer is 8 psi..</TD></TR></TABLE>
WOW.