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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:14 AM
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Hello,

My boost Fluctutates, i do not get consistant 14PSI From Full boost [4500-8200rpm].
It will go from like 12-13.9 and not hold at 14PSI.

I do not have a boost controller, only a 14psi spring in my Tial 38mm Wastegate.

My Setup is a B16a Built motor, Srp 8.x:1 Cr.



Anyone has any info that could help me?
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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you sure you have a 14 psi spring?
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 11:00 AM
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almost positive
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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wheres your source for the wg?

i would double check what spring you have. a lot of times itll creep a little so youll run a little more boost than the spring. you usually cant run anything below the wg spring rating.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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sounds like a 12 psi spring with a little bit of creep.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 03:54 AM
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wheres your source for the wg?

i would double check what spring you have. a lot of times itll creep a little so youll run a little more boost than the spring. you usually cant run anything below the wg spring rating.
source is Intake Mani, shared with bov
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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What brand BOV do you have?

Does it build boost consistently or does it jump around?
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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What brand BOV do you have?

Does it build boost consistently or does it jump around?
It jumps arround, BOV is TIAL
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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i have used a 10lb spring in my old wastegate.
i bought a new wastegate and put that spring in it now i get 8-9lb....
weird
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Ive had the same thing happen to me with a Tial BOV. Take it apart and rebuild it. Clean it out and lubricate it. Then test it out, see if it fixes your problem.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by b20beast83
source is Intake Mani, shared with bov
IMO the bov should have its own dedicated vacuum course off the manifod for proper operation. Ive teed off other things for a line to my bov and it always gave me weird issues.

That also wasnt just on one specific bov, i always had issues witou a dedicated line to the bov om a greddy type rs, Turbosmart megasonic, tial and now my turbosmart racegate bov. and when put on a single dedicated line they all work flawlessly
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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like i said the first time, double check the spring and get back with the color.

also check what spring is in the bov.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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IMO the bov should have its own dedicated vacuum course off the manifod for proper operation. Ive teed off other things for a line to my bov and it always gave me weird issues.

That also wasnt just on one specific bov, i always had issues witou a dedicated line to the bov om a greddy type rs, Turbosmart megasonic, tial and now my turbosmart racegate bov. and when put on a single dedicated line they all work flawlessly
Mine is a single dedicated line.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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I love your sig psychoteen!
lmfao!
Im gonna guess a sticking/slow responding wastegate?
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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^^That or the BOV is what im thinking.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 04:50 AM
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Where else can i put the Wastegate line?
There is only one port on the Manifold!
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 09:01 AM
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what manifold do you have? there should be more than one port.

buy a vac box and tee it off the big brake booster line that way you have multiple ports you can use and its off a big line so you shouldnt have any problems. thats what i did for one of my cars. no problems after 3 years.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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^yeah..especialy if you trying to be clean about things...and you weld all the ports closed on the intake mani.....
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Tapping into the intake manifold and threading in a fitting isnt very difficult.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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toward the outlet of the turbo, drill a hole and tap it and put a fitting on there. thats is the best place to get a boost feed for the wastegate. typically though if you have a good intercooler you will see a 1.5-2 psi loss. so if your running a 12 psi spring you would see 10-11 psi of boost because the gate still opens up at 12 psi but the intercooler restricts somewhat

Im running a blox intake manifold same as skunk2 and i use the front nipple for my bov, the rear nipple goes to the brake boost and a vacuum manifold for boost gauge and little things. the WG is hooked to the outlet of the turbo as i just described as well as my boost controller. works flawlessly
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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im having the same prob, i bought a 9lb spring and am only seeing 7psi. Would I need to buy a 11.6lb spring to see 9-10psi?
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 04:17 AM
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I *think* i found the problem,
The Bolt that goes into the Barb Fitting was a Smaller BOLT.
I thus changed it to an original Bolt, Hopefully this was the problem.
Is that a possibility?
I will have to datalog to see.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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im having the same prob, i bought a 9lb spring and am only seeing 7psi. Would I need to buy a 11.6lb spring to see 9-10psi?
if you are running the boost feed form the turbo to the wastegate then yes you will need an 11 psi spring to get roughly 9 psi at the intake manifold. or just get a good mbc like a turbosmart and a few clicks will accomplish the same thing
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Originally Posted by b20beast83
I *think* i found the problem,
The Bolt that goes into the Barb Fitting was a Smaller BOLT.
I thus changed it to an original Bolt, Hopefully this was the problem.
Is that a possibility?
I will have to datalog to see.
Barb fitting on what?
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 04:45 AM
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Thanks bra, i appreciate it.
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