civictech01

i want to git a b motor eaither a b16 or gsr obd 2. Eventually boost motor and looking to git close to 300hp. have about 4k to start with for a civic ex.
can i git pros and cons?

null.

gsr. no cons except price.

civictech01

would the gsr be easier to swap and about how much more $ for the whole swap? i found a b16 for $2600 about 40k on it

m R g S r

well you are getting ripped if you pay 2600 for a b16

a FULL swap goes for around 1500.....


gsr should be 2600-3000

ham

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what kind of car?

hinds90

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well you are getting ripped if you pay 2600 for a b16

a FULL swap goes for around 1500.....


gsr should be 2600-3000</TD></TR></TABLE>

Were can you get a b16 for 1500 because you need to let me know because I am in the market for one.

ham

http://www.hmotorsonline.com

hinds90

Are you talking about the obd-0 b16 88-91

ham

yeah, but the obd1 should only be $200 more.

boostedcivicsir

an obd0 b16 is 1500. an obd1 or 2 is 2250.

http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/...30005

knowing what i know now, i would have built a gsr for boost the first time, but i didnt have the money for the gsr at the time. i am goin to try to squeek 600 out of an 84mm b16 with a t3t67 h.o. just for the hell of it. and if it goes, thats my excuse to do a super deck 2 gsr.

EVIL Hx Coupe

GSR is definitely the way to go. Going from driving my friend's boosted B16 to a boosted B18C is like night and day. They both make around the same power, but the torque makes quite a difference. The turbo lag is so much more noticiable on the B16 because of the lack of torque.

Either one will go fast, the B18 is just more fun to daily drive.

Boostage

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EVIL Hx Coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GSR is definitely the way to go. Going from driving my friend's boosted B16 to a boosted B18C is like night and day. They both make around the same power, but the torque makes quite a difference. The turbo lag is so much more noticiable on the B16 because of the lack of torque.

Either one will go fast, the B18 is just more fun to daily drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you make no sense..

ham

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you make no sense..</TD></TR></TABLE>

it makes sense to me.... torque on the b18 makes the turbo lag less noticeable because the engine has power at low RPM.

marshun

b20 block you have money to build with

sorry after i got to run against a b20 vtec that was built up i have a new respect.

EVIL Hx Coupe

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ham &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it makes sense to me.... torque on the b18 makes the turbo lag less noticeable because the engine has power at low RPM. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up for him.

ham

back on subject..... the complete changeover is $2250, you only need the motor/tranny, which is $1799 (obd1). obd0 ones are cheap and easy to convert to obd1! but you shouldnt take those, they will run out one day, and the EF guys will be very sad

if you get a gsr (which i have and very highly recommend with boost), find a crashed usdm teg or a us one around local, it can save you some $$$$.