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Old 05-15-2010, 03:16 PM
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Default Bigger Injectors in Stock D16?

I'm slowly putting together an engine and turbo build for my EK. I'm building a D16Y8 currently, and I plan on putting it in mostly stock and then running it as is until I gather up all of my turbo parts to put on at a later date.

My question is, can I put my 440 cc injectors in now as long as I use my chipped computer, and just run a stock D16Y8 map with Crome and input that I have the larger injectors? I'd rather put this engine fully together instead of pulling out injectors and spilling gas and stuff all over when I go turbo.
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if you're not putting the rest of your gear on until later, there is no advantage to a larger injector....

running bigger injectors on a stock engine is pretty much pointless...
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simply scaling the 440's with the stock map may work, but it wont be optimal. as easy as injectors are, leave em out til last.
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Originally Posted by boostedcivicsir
simply scaling the 440's with the stock map may work, but it wont be optimal. as easy as injectors are, leave em out til last.
OK, thanks, I'll go with the stocks to avoid any issues. And to the previous poster, I'm not expecting any gains from using the larger injectors, I just wanted to put them in beforehand to save a little effort and mess later when I put my whole setup in.
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whats the easiest way to add bigger injectors? looking into everything for a turbo setup. what setup are you going to be using as far as ecu, injectors, any other specifics aside from the mechanical aspects of the turbo.
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Can I run 370cc injectors on the stock d16y8 vtec motor internals? I am upgrading to walbro 255, pressure reg kit, Cai, full flow catback with 4-2-1 header, race timing, aem wideband, msd blaster 2 coil and distributor kit, ngk v power plugs. what afr should I look for when tuning with this setup? And what should the fuel pressure be set at for a first fire? And I plan to turbo later with a turbo cam, internals, valve train.
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You cannot run 370's with a stock ECU. You will need a way to modify the tune for the larger fuel injectors. Fuel pressure should be about 45 psi with the engine idling... NO vacuum connected to the regulator. You will NOT need larger fuel injectors until you add the turbo kit... even if you did the engine internals that you have listed and kept it NA right now. The stock injectors are large enough without the turbo kit.
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Default Re: Bigger Injectors in Stock D16?

Originally Posted by EFhatcher93
Can I run 370cc injectors on the stock d16y8 vtec motor internals? I am upgrading to walbro 255, pressure reg kit, Cai, full flow catback with 4-2-1 header, race timing, aem wideband, msd blaster 2 coil and distributor kit, ngk v power plugs. what afr should I look for when tuning with this setup? And what should the fuel pressure be set at for a first fire? And I plan to turbo later with a turbo cam, internals, valve train.
Agree with JRCivic1 on all points. 43-45 psi static fuel pressure (vacuum line disconnected from FPR, car running at idle). Without forced induction, I'd be looking for mid/low 14's at WOT for your AFR. Low load areas of the map can be upwards of mid 15's.
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Originally Posted by EFhatcher93
Can I run 370cc injectors on the stock d16y8 vtec motor internals? You can use larger injectors on a stock internal engine, but you can’t just plug in larger injectors while using a stock ECU (computer) because it will dump excessive amounts of fuel into your engine, causing it to bog down at the least, but not work at all more than likely. I am upgrading to walbro 255, pressure reg kit, Cai, full flow catback with 4-2-1 header, race timing, aem wideband, msd blaster 2 coil and distributor kit, ngk v power plugs. Those are good parts if going Naturally Aspirated however you’ll probably want a different exhaust when going turbo. You can’t use the CAI or 4-2-1 header once turbo, so you might as well not install those or purchase them if you haven’t already (or look to sell them and put the $ towards turbo parts). what afr should I look for when tuning with this setup? What do you plan on tuning with, just the fuel pressure regulator? If so you can add a few psi of fuel pressure to compensate for the header, intake, etc. if you insist on installing those parts, but the gain will be minimal and you’re better off planning for your eventual goal of turbocharging. And what should the fuel pressure be set at for a first fire? What Dax and JRCivic1 put, or a few more psi since you’ll have a CAI and exhaust/header if you go that route. And I plan to turbo later with a turbo cam, internals, valve train. That’s good, but just be ready to spend at least a few thousand to do it the right way if you plan on a cam (few hundred $), internals (pistons,rods,etc. 700$ plus), valve train ($600 plus), and the turbo kit ($2k plus) for quality components.
What you plan on tuning with once turbo, and what your horsepower goals are should be approximated before purchasing any parts, so you don’t have to upgrade halfway through.
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There is really no reason to install them now. It is such an easy job to install the injectors when doing the rest of the turbo. Might as well install the turbo and tune everything at the same time in my opinion. Actually, when I did my turbo, I even left the stock injectors in, drove the car to the dyno with the wastegate open to avoid building any boost, and just quickly swapped the injectors over when we were putting in the new chip for the tune. Quick and easy.
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does anyone have any ratings on the go autoworks turbo kit
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Originally Posted by d16y8stock
does anyone have any ratings on the go autoworks turbo kit
Which kit? I've had an overall great experience dealing with Go-Autoworks.
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Originally Posted by DaX
Which kit? I've had an overall great experience dealing with Go-Autoworks.
I'm not real sure which one to get for optimal power I've still got to build the motor and I'm new to the scene of 4 cyl
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This is a 13 year old thread with a completely different subject that you've randomly bumped with a one-liner question and no other details.
Also yes Go-Autoworks is literally the last company left that makes off-the-shelf full kits for our cars that are actually worth buying.

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My bad I joined the forum and it said I had to reply to a thread so I figured I'd get some questions answered, but thank you for the info
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No problem man, good luck with your build. Make a new topic with more info about what your goals are, budget, etc if you need more help.

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Originally Posted by d16y8stock
My bad I joined the forum and it said I had to reply to a thread so I figured I'd get some questions answered, but thank you for the info
The ideal thing to do is use the Forced Induction Random Chat Thread. Go over there and we can continue the conversation, or start your own thread if you're able to.
Which kit you buy will depend on your power goals, how the car will be used, and your budget.
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that ain't working. Are you a mod?
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that ain't working. Are you a mod?
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