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Old 09-15-2007, 03:30 PM
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Driving today on the freeway, I decided to downshift to 3rd and give it full throttle. Around 5-6k the car backfires, bogs down and lets out a huge black puff of smoke. I did another pull in 2nd gear and it seemed fine. Motor sounded fine.

Motor is a built (rod/piston) D16Y8, 16psi, 260whp, tuned on eCtune.

I think it may be ignition related. I'm running NGK BKR7Es gapped at .028, and crappy Advance Auto wires (probably just anwsered my question with the crap wires). Should I regap to a higher or lower gap?

Should I be worried about running lean or detonation?

Any other thoughts on why I backfired so bad?
Old 09-15-2007, 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxxd97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Driving today on the freeway, I decided to downshift to 3rd and give it full throttle. Around 5-6k the car backfires, bogs down and lets out a huge black puff of smoke. I did another pull in 2nd gear and it seemed fine. Motor sounded fine.

Motor is a built (rod/piston) D16Y8, 16psi, 260whp, tuned on eCtune.

I think it may be ignition related. I'm running NGK BKR7Es gapped at .028, and crappy Advance Auto wires (probably just anwsered my question with the crap wires). Should I regap to a higher or lower gap?

Should I be worried about running lean or detonation?

Any other thoughts on why I backfired so bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Get your self a wideband
Old 09-15-2007, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: Backfire...bog...3rd gear WOT (maxxd97)

If you had shitty wires that didn't fire when the going got tough, you'd have a shitload of fuel not being burnt, meaning lots of fuel ready to ignite in the exhaust. Apparently it did (backfire), and stayed rich from continued misfiring.

I would definately put a wideband in to recheck AFR's, as they are usually different on the street vs the dyno, and certainly so if the tuner didn't play with the temp correction correctly.
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Wideband is on my list to get for both of my cars, just have to find the money to buy one. Any other thoughts?
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Default Re: Backfire...bog...3rd gear WOT (maxxd97)

sounds like detonation or lean air/fuel mixture cause my 00 coupe did that when i first boosted it with stock injectors and fuel pump, but now i'm chrome chipped with DSM450's and i don't have a problem, it pulls all the way to rev limiter that was bumped up to 7500 rpms
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have u thought about going with a step colder plugs?
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Thats what I was asking. Should I try different plugs? Different gap?

This is the first time it has happened besides the time when I had the stock plugs and we were street tuning and the plugs got too hot.

I need a wideband, but don't have the money at the moment to get one.
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Morning McBump.
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If you can get access to a laptop check your MAP voltage. Sounds like you might be loosing your MAP signal
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