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Old 10-27-2009, 08:51 AM
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i finished putting the car together and got it tuned. here's the set up

stock jdm gsr w/itr cams
ramhorn mani on a 57trim
3in dp
9psi

it was street tuned by two local guys. the car runs good but around 3,000 (give or take some rpm's) deceleration or a steady throttle there's a backfire at times.

i won't take it back to the guy's that tuned it. long story.

any input on why this could be ? recommendations on someone in the area that could help ?
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: backfire

Is it a backfire or more of a hesitation?

It could be a lean misfire at a certain load if it happens at a steady throttle state while cruising.
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Default Re: backfire

Originally Posted by 93turbo16
Is it a backfire or more of a hesitation?

It could be a lean misfire at a certain load if it happens at a steady throttle state while cruising.
it doesn't hesitate, and my wideband reads 12.5-13.5 in mid throttle.
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it doesn't backfire in acceleration at all. only decel and at a steady rpm
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Default Re: backfire

my car always pops out the exhaust on certain deceleration scenarios. nothing wrong with it .its when it pops out the intake you should worry.
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it sounds like it's coming from my down pipe. it's parked for the winter but i just wanted to find out some info. thanks you guys. i do want it retuned just before summer though, but i'm upgrading some parts first.
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Default Re: backfire

If it's 12.5:1 afr on stead-state or decel, that's much richer than it needs to be. It's probably just that, a backfire. The higher-vacuum condition (less dense) burns air much slower, and rich conditions burn even slower. So you're ejecting unburnt fuel into the manifold, which continues to burn or is re-ignited by another exhaust event.

If you enable fuel cut AND ignition cut on a motor at the same time, you can get massive backfires at redline from this same idea. And I mean gunshot loud. It basicly cuts ignition after fuel has been injected, and then that fuel is ignited when ignition re-starts.

FYI cruising or light accell should be 14-15:1, light decel should be 15-16:1, and 0% throttle decel should read full-lean at most rpm's. You can get away with a much leaner mixture with lighter loads. My car will cruise as lean as 16:1 before I start feeling lean misfires. Saves gasoline, but bad for NOx emissions.
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thank you. makes perfect sense.
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