Backdoor intercooler piping?
backdoor intercooler setup means the turbo outlet goes straight into the intercooler and the you only have oen side of piping you have to fab up
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why would you ever want this?
besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...
you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?
i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90
and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it
besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...
you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?
i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90
and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would you ever want this?
besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...
you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?
i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90
and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rob a backdoor IC is an awesome set up, I wish I had one on my new set up BUT they are expensive on a BIG ONE like I need. Less chances of piping blow offs, I loved my old Full Race backdoor IC!
besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...
you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?
i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90
and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rob a backdoor IC is an awesome set up, I wish I had one on my new set up BUT they are expensive on a BIG ONE like I need. Less chances of piping blow offs, I loved my old Full Race backdoor IC!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> bead roll and t-bolts...never have to worry about blowing off i/c pipes
until i see some LEGITIMENT reasoning behind the design...i'll stick to thinking it's worthless</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rob I had bead rolled welded nipples and always ran TBolt clamps and ran some high boost 20psi+ and still had pipe blow offs man. Backdoor style is AWESOME! So that is LEGITIMATE right there and proven!
Edit: Also use HUMP HOSES they are AWESOME and help to keep pipes from blowing off! I did see a spool difference with my Full Race backdoor intercooler from a Greddy Type 24 though too
Mostly backdoor is convenience, less piping less blow offs, less interferance with traction bars or downpipes etc etc. I did see a spool difference BUt again I went from a tube and fin to a Bar and plate sooooooooo I would liek to get a test done to compare a traditional core to a backdoor style IC, have to be same type and size cores
Modified by Boostfed.com at 12:15 PM 9/2/2005
until i see some LEGITIMENT reasoning behind the design...i'll stick to thinking it's worthless</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rob I had bead rolled welded nipples and always ran TBolt clamps and ran some high boost 20psi+ and still had pipe blow offs man. Backdoor style is AWESOME! So that is LEGITIMATE right there and proven!
Edit: Also use HUMP HOSES they are AWESOME and help to keep pipes from blowing off! I did see a spool difference with my Full Race backdoor intercooler from a Greddy Type 24 though too
Mostly backdoor is convenience, less piping less blow offs, less interferance with traction bars or downpipes etc etc. I did see a spool difference BUt again I went from a tube and fin to a Bar and plate sooooooooo I would liek to get a test done to compare a traditional core to a backdoor style IC, have to be same type and size cores
Modified by Boostfed.com at 12:15 PM 9/2/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would you ever want this?
besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...
you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?
i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90
and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler
besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...
you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?
i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90
and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler
**** T-bolts...Wiggins clamps are where its at...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtekthis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>
How is there not a sharp 90 degree turn in the end tank?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtekthis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>
How is there not a sharp 90 degree turn in the end tank?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** T-bolts...Wiggins clamps are where its at...
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It's not a worthless design. It does have its benefits and downfalls. The benefits of having less chances for a piping-coupler failure is a large portion of the design. Fewer couplers, fewer chances for a pipe to seperate. The major downfall is that the flow through the endtank may not be ideal.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtekthis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>
so the turn that in the intercooler is no NOT a 90* turn....*sigh*
so the turn that in the intercooler is no NOT a 90* turn....*sigh*
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not a worthless design. It does have its benefits and downfalls. The benefits of having less chances for a piping-coupler failure is a large portion of the design. Fewer couplers, fewer chances for a pipe to seperate. The major downfall is that the flow through the endtank may not be ideal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Fewer coupler. Its easy to make the turbo to endtank tubing one piece. I'll take the better flow over one less coupler any day.
Fewer coupler. Its easy to make the turbo to endtank tubing one piece. I'll take the better flow over one less coupler any day.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fewer coupler. Its easy to make the turbo to endtank tubing one piece. I'll take the better flow over one less coupler any day.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly
exactly
If you do your piping right it will not blow off. Pipes that blow off are misaligned or clamped on a bend or something. A pipe with a bead on it and a clamp will not go any where. If you want to play it safe, weld tabs on each pipe and bolt a strap across the two...
I went with a backdoor intercooler because the regular one wouldn't work with my traction bars. The backdoor intercooler paired with a full-race style manifold (not the top mount) makes the turbo hang prettty low. I've heard of people welding a 90 degree piece on the turbo so the intercooler piping will run right above the traction bars.
Anybody run into this...
I would prefer to run the regular style intercooler because my backdoor intercooler isn't centered, but it still works great...
Anybody run into this...
I would prefer to run the regular style intercooler because my backdoor intercooler isn't centered, but it still works great...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you do your piping right it will not blow off. Pipes that blow off are misaligned or clamped on a bend or something. A pipe with a bead on it and a clamp will not go any where. If you want to play it safe, weld tabs on each pipe and bolt a strap across the two...
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Why not just weld the two pieces of tubing together at that point?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Why not just weld the two pieces of tubing together at that point?



