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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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What exactly is this? I've been searching for a while and cant seem to find anything regarding this.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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backdoor intercooler setup means the turbo outlet goes straight into the intercooler and the you only have oen side of piping you have to fab up
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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so wouldnt u need a custom intercooler for that or what?
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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yes the end tank has to be modified to make it backdoor
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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http://www.full-race.com/catal...id=72
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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for the lazy ppl


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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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the outlet on the left side, is that where the BOV goes??
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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yes
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 06:27 AM
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why would you ever want this?

besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...

you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?

i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90

and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would you ever want this?

besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...

you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?

i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90

and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Rob a backdoor IC is an awesome set up, I wish I had one on my new set up BUT they are expensive on a BIG ONE like I need. Less chances of piping blow offs, I loved my old Full Race backdoor IC!
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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bead roll and t-bolts...never have to worry about blowing off i/c pipes

until i see some LEGITIMENT reasoning behind the design...i'll stick to thinking it's worthless
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> bead roll and t-bolts...never have to worry about blowing off i/c pipes

until i see some LEGITIMENT reasoning behind the design...i'll stick to thinking it's worthless</TD></TR></TABLE>

Rob I had bead rolled welded nipples and always ran TBolt clamps and ran some high boost 20psi+ and still had pipe blow offs man. Backdoor style is AWESOME! So that is LEGITIMATE right there and proven!


Edit: Also use HUMP HOSES they are AWESOME and help to keep pipes from blowing off! I did see a spool difference with my Full Race backdoor intercooler from a Greddy Type 24 though too

Mostly backdoor is convenience, less piping less blow offs, less interferance with traction bars or downpipes etc etc. I did see a spool difference BUt again I went from a tube and fin to a Bar and plate sooooooooo I would liek to get a test done to compare a traditional core to a backdoor style IC, have to be same type and size cores


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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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not a real reason to me
like i said...28ish psi on a 76mm...and never a blow off after bead rolled and T-bolts
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would you ever want this?

besides the intercooler sitting weird in hte front bumper...

you've got a hard 90 to hit coming right off the turbo?

i'd rather have the extra pipe with gradual turns instead of this ****, piping doesn't take long to pressureize, and you'd have gradual turns instead of that 90

and **** a bov sitting right there too..i understand the benifits of it..but, um...around here ppl would just walk up and take it</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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**** T-bolts...Wiggins clamps are where its at...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtekthis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>

How is there not a sharp 90 degree turn in the end tank?
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** T-bolts...Wiggins clamps are where its at... </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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It's not a worthless design. It does have its benefits and downfalls. The benefits of having less chances for a piping-coupler failure is a large portion of the design. Fewer couplers, fewer chances for a pipe to seperate. The major downfall is that the flow through the endtank may not be ideal.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtekthis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is no 90 deg hit, you just turn the tubo housing to point direct to the intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>

so the turn that in the intercooler is no NOT a 90* turn....*sigh*
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicross &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not a worthless design. It does have its benefits and downfalls. The benefits of having less chances for a piping-coupler failure is a large portion of the design. Fewer couplers, fewer chances for a pipe to seperate. The major downfall is that the flow through the endtank may not be ideal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fewer coupler. Its easy to make the turbo to endtank tubing one piece. I'll take the better flow over one less coupler any day.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fewer coupler. Its easy to make the turbo to endtank tubing one piece. I'll take the better flow over one less coupler any day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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got confused, thought you meant the actual pipe to intercooler connection coupler. does seem like a cocky design but does work fine
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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If you do your piping right it will not blow off. Pipes that blow off are misaligned or clamped on a bend or something. A pipe with a bead on it and a clamp will not go any where. If you want to play it safe, weld tabs on each pipe and bolt a strap across the two...
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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my IC is backdoored on both inlet and outlet, but that is in a cramped space.

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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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I went with a backdoor intercooler because the regular one wouldn't work with my traction bars. The backdoor intercooler paired with a full-race style manifold (not the top mount) makes the turbo hang prettty low. I've heard of people welding a 90 degree piece on the turbo so the intercooler piping will run right above the traction bars.

Anybody run into this...

I would prefer to run the regular style intercooler because my backdoor intercooler isn't centered, but it still works great...
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you do your piping right it will not blow off. Pipes that blow off are misaligned or clamped on a bend or something. A pipe with a bead on it and a clamp will not go any where. If you want to play it safe, weld tabs on each pipe and bolt a strap across the two...
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Why not just weld the two pieces of tubing together at that point?
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