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Old 02-09-2015, 11:07 AM
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Default B20vtecvillian callout thread!! R&R ls rod bolts in

I wana know how you replace rod bolts with the rods still in the motor


Without scratching the crank, head or block.

What tools
What punches

How high the car needs to be.

This seems almost impossible to do right
Old 02-09-2015, 12:08 PM
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I'm not sure why you are so sure it can't be done. I know people personally that have changed bearings on the side of the road. I know people how have changed rod bolts with the engine in the car as well.
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Bearings yes

Rod bolts im doubting
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And i said to do right
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The question shouldn't be HOW it can be done but rather WHY?

Can it be done? Yes.

Should it be done? HELL NO!!!

Any time you you remove stock style rod bolts and install new ones (stock or aftermarket) you need to at minimum check the big journal for distortion. If aftermarket bolts are installed it typically distorts the rod assembly enough to need a hone to bring back to concentricity.
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This reminds me of the lazy people that our ARPs in one at a time so they don't have to pull the head and replace the headgasket.
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Originally Posted by wantboost
This reminds me of the lazy people that our ARPs in one at a time so they don't have to pull the head and replace the headgasket.
"Oh yeah, you can totally do that! Don't even wait for the engine to cool down from picking them up, just slap them on!"

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Originally Posted by wantboost
This reminds me of the lazy people that our ARPs in one at a time so they don't have to pull the head and replace the headgasket.
Can it be done without ruining the crank block or head?

Never mind the rod caps getting distorted
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Wondering the same,,, I have a rebuilt b20 block,, but I want to replace the rod bolts with some arp bolts,, block is on a stand out the car,,, is it possible to just remove them one by one and replace to proper torque specs,,, sorry for thread jacking but am curious and need some help / advice .. Thxs
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Originally Posted by PGR_rexo
Wondering the same,,, I have a rebuilt b20 block,, but I want to replace the rod bolts with some arp bolts,, block is on a stand out the car,,, is it possible to just remove them one by one and replace to proper torque specs,,, sorry for thread jacking but am curious and need some help / advice .. Thxs

No thread jack, thats exactly what im wondering

He hasnt came into the thread yet so im guessing he hasnt done it
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Someone mentioned this before, but apparently the TINY stock sized arp bolts are torqued to a few lbs more than the stock bolts. The larger bolts that typically come with the gsr rods and eagle rods are torqued to 40lbs+ and will distort a stock rod.

Its still stupid to do
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Originally Posted by PGR_rexo
Wondering the same,,, I have a rebuilt b20 block,, but I want to replace the rod bolts with some arp bolts,, block is on a stand out the car,,, is it possible to just remove them one by one and replace to proper torque specs,,, sorry for thread jacking but am curious and need some help / advice .. Thxs
I already answered your question. The answer is NO if you want to do it right and not have issues!!! Please reread the entire thread.
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Originally Posted by PGR_rexo
Wondering the same,,, I have a rebuilt b20 block,, but I want to replace the rod bolts with some arp bolts,, block is on a stand out the car,,, is it possible to just remove them one by one and replace to proper torque specs,,, sorry for thread jacking but am curious and need some help / advice .. Thxs
If you already have the block on a rotisserie, why not just do it correctly?
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this threads existence has me laughing. i feel its gonna get good. be back later
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lol
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Not as bad as the dude pounding a bicycle chain in the cooling passage for a block guard...Still trying to find that video lol
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Where did this b20vtecvillian douche canoe go?
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Can it be done? yes. Should it be done?...eh not really

If you are replacing with stock OEM honda rod bolts then yes it can be done
If you are replacing with ARP or anything aftermarket...not a flying chance.

ARP specifically states the rods must be bolted together and then the bearing bore honed/reamed/bored back round and new bearings installed with proper clearance.

If you are going to do this with Honda parts I would at least take the time to make a guard to cover the crank journal s if you remove the lower rod caps, or prtect the caps before trying to hammer out the rod bolts. make sure you have a long magnet to reach the ones you blast up into the cylinders when you pound too hard.

You will have to get creative on installing the new bolts and ensuring they seat correctly on the rod and are torqued properly.

Do i suggest doing this? No. Take the head off and pull the pistons out the whole way and do it right. Sounds to me like you are itching to get your hands dirty anyway so just rebuild the motor yourself
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I would never try this.
I was just very skeptic as to how someone would do this with out ******* something up.
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Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
I would never try this.
I was just very skeptic as to how someone would do this with out ******* something up.
Then why ask? do you know someone trying to attempt this? or just trolling?
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Then why ask? do you know someone trying to attempt this? or just trolling?
Sometimes you have to call out stupid, so that the people who might not know better can find out that it is stupid.
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
Sometimes you have to call out stupid, so that the people who might not know better can find out that it is stupid.

This


I never troll
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Ruthless it is here.
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Ruthless it is here.
We don't **** around with misinformation, y0.
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Default Re: B20vtecvillian callout thread!! R&R ls rod bolts in

So you guys are telling me
*you cant install arp rodbolts while the motor is in the car
*you cant install arp headstuds one at a time to save on headgasket cost
*you cant install arp mainstuds without line honing

WTF are the cheap n lazy gonna do now?!?!?!?
Next youll be saying you cant race your newly turbo'd car on a basemap sheeeshhhh


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