B20's ok to Sleeve?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 03:56 AM
  #1  
EdSales's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Lorton, Va, USA
Default B20's ok to Sleeve?

I want to build a B20Vtec Motor and push it for 500 WHP. I've read that when you Sleeve the B20, that they don't seal and coolant leaks into the crankcase. Any words on this?
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 04:21 AM
  #2  
non-VTEC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 6,212
Likes: 2
From: Toronto, Canada
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

send it to golden eagle. they are the only ones who can sleeve a B20 right and can guarantee not coolant leaking.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 05:20 AM
  #3  
EdSales's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Lorton, Va, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

Right, but I read on another post where you said that makes the Engine run 15 degrees hotter...and while 15 degrees is no big deal, when I'm boosting its going to heat up a good bit.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 06:28 AM
  #4  
EdSales's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Lorton, Va, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

How much did it cost including Sleeves for Golden Eagle to do it?
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 06:51 AM
  #5  
non-VTEC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 6,212
Likes: 2
From: Toronto, Canada
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

i believe they charge about 1k to do the B20. slightly less for a B16/B18. but you better call or email them to be sure. there are little to no machine shops who sill sleeve a B20 block with a warranty. GE is your only/best choice if you really want to use that block.

as for the heat....you need to do some cooling system upgrades regardless if it's boosted or not.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 09:35 AM
  #6  
89vwfox's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

i talked to kingmotorsports they told me they do not recommend sleeving b20's due to the diff sleeve design compared to the superior ls guy who i talked to said he built 1 and it cracked a sleeve within 10,000 miles told me to get a ls and sleeve it.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 02:56 PM
  #7  
EdSales's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Lorton, Va, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

I'm pretty set on doing a B20 over an LS. A bunch of my friends did an LS and don't want to copy them. If Sleeving a B20 is going to give me nothing but problems, I'll just build an All-Motor B20Vtec or build a Boost B16A to 500 WHP.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 03:37 PM
  #8  
89vwfox's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

King told me i should get an ls sleeve it and bore to 2.1 i would go with b16 or ls i used to be set on b20v allmotor but there sleeve design is totally diff from other b series motors and no matter what they will crack at some time stock or aftermarket. I think the b20 sleeve is one whole peice while the ls has individual sleeves someone correct me if im wrong not hating on your build
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 09:52 AM
  #9  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

There is a difference between Boring a B20 and Sleeving one. Remember, the sleeves from golden eagle are REPLACING the B20 sleeves entirely. I'm not sure you heard the advice King gave you, but you might be a little confused.

Sleeving a B20 Block is just fine, and would do quite well with the B20 crank and B16 head. I personally have run Golden Eagle since 2001 and still have the car today. wonderful stuff.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:15 AM
  #10  
EdSales's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Lorton, Va, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

Originally Posted by TheShodan
There is a difference between Boring a B20 and Sleeving one. Remember, the sleeves from golden eagle are REPLACING the B20 sleeves entirely. I'm not sure you heard the advice King gave you, but you might be a little confused.

Sleeving a B20 Block is just fine, and would do quite well with the B20 crank and B16 head. I personally have run Golden Eagle since 2001 and still have the car today. wonderful stuff.
If you say its good to run Shodan, then my worries are put to rest. Thanks.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:18 AM
  #11  
89vwfox's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

Originally Posted by TheShodan
There is a difference between Boring a B20 and Sleeving one. Remember, the sleeves from golden eagle are REPLACING the B20 sleeves entirely. I'm not sure you heard the advice King gave you, but you might be a little confused.

Sleeving a B20 Block is just fine, and would do quite well with the B20 crank and B16 head. I personally have run Golden Eagle since 2001 and still have the car today. wonderful stuff.

They did tell me alot of stuff on the phone i dont know if they where trying to sell me out on one of there builds or what. But they did tell me for a fact that they do not recommend resleeving b20 blocks to there customers. And the part i might not have understood....the b20 sleeve design is one whole piece making it weaker and restricting coolant flow with stock or aftermarket sleeves. and the ls sleeve design are individual pieces(4)after market or stock making them stronger and allowing for better coolant flow???sounds kinda right idk i wish someone could verify this 100%
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:22 AM
  #12  
EdSales's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Lorton, Va, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

I saw someone on here sleeve a B20 with LS Sleeves. It sounded like a bad idea when I clicked on the link, and the pics didn't look good to me.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:27 AM
  #13  
89vwfox's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

http://www.ht-archive.com/showthread.php?t=709410
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:33 AM
  #14  
89vwfox's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 355
Likes: 0
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

I think what im trying to say is b20 sleeves are more prone to sinking or cracking due to the one piece design even with after market sleeves the motor will be strong but a sleeved 2.0 ls will be stronger due to sleeve design
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 10:38 AM
  #15  
EdSales's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 298
Likes: 0
From: Lorton, Va, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

Originally Posted by 89vwfox
I think what im trying to say is b20 sleeves are more prone to sinking or cracking due to the one piece design even with after market sleeves the motor will be strong but a sleeved 2.0 ls will be stronger due to sleeve design
I'm still stuck on whether or not to go with my orginal goal of a 500 WHP FI B20Vtec, or go with the All-Motor B20Vtec and pull out my B16A to build to 500 WHP.
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 11:14 AM
  #16  
vwbased's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 177
Likes: 1
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

have a nice day

Last edited by vwbased; Jan 27, 2013 at 09:27 PM. Reason: have a nice day
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2010 | 11:45 AM
  #17  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

Hmm.. very informative indeed. thank you.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:25 AM
  #18  
PRO1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 718
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte,NC
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

i would never send a b20 off to get sleeved, wat a waste, Why doint u just get b16 or GSR? or LS ? not that hard, Why risk a 1k ? all for a b20? Get a LS block
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:36 AM
  #19  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 242
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

Perhaps he wants a true 2.0 Litre and this is what is available to him. having the GSR or LS sleeved to 84mm with an LS crank is more practical to get to the 2.0 litre displacement.
Reply
Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:47 AM
  #20  
dana h's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: bangor pa
Default Re: B20's ok to Sleeve?

kjoihobilyli88tttttttttttttt
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
boostedb20ek
Forced Induction
7
Dec 17, 2013 03:48 AM
Del Sol
Forced Induction
18
Mar 3, 2013 12:39 PM
blackeg
Tech / Misc
1
Aug 9, 2008 03:06 PM
stockmr2
Forced Induction
3
Mar 9, 2006 12:51 PM
-KangaRod-
Forced Induction
9
Jun 24, 2004 02:29 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:03 PM.