<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spike101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This wont be my daily, BTW. You do have a good point.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then go with LSV Turbo, theres a lot of potential. But there will also be enough potential with a straight GSR turbo w/o paying for extra builds for the conversion. so what are you most likely to do, LS turbo? GSR Turbo? or LSV Turbo?

 

Really honestly. You dont see much of them. Im not sure yet but built gsr with a jackson racing sc doesnt sound to shabby either. not many people have them thats why. but build the gsr and SC it. would be slow either.

 

Id go LS turbo unless you plan on building the setup. Then i would go LSvtec turbo. Do the setup correctly and you wont have any problems.

If you dont like the whole "LS vtec" thing, put LS crank and rods in the GSR and have a nice setup right there.

But honestly this has been talked about so many times, you could find your answer w/ a lil searching. besides... no1 can make up your mind but you.

good luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spike101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really honestly. You dont see much of them. Im not sure yet but built gsr with a jackson racing sc doesnt sound to shabby either. not many people have them thats why. but build the gsr and SC it. would be slow either.</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you already have a GSR short block, take a advantage and fortunate of having one and use it. LS short blocks will be easy to pick up anywhere for cheap. GSR shortblocks are hard to find here in san diego too and im in the process of pickin up a GSR shortblock this weekend, i have pistons and rods waiting

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Id go LS turbo unless you plan on building the setup. Then i would go LSvtec turbo. Do the setup correctly and you wont have any problems.

If you dont like the whole "LS vtec" thing, put LS crank and rods in the GSR and have a nice setup right there.

But honestly this has been talked about so many times, you could find your answer w/ a lil searching. besides... no1 can make up your mind but you.

good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

well said

 

LS Vtec doesnt sound bad. Im liking whatever is thrown at me. But if I do LS/VTEC would I want a B16 head or a GSR head?

 

B16 head w/ aftermarket springs/retainors.

My 84mm LSvtec made 366whp, 275ftlbs on .7 bar.

I think you'll like the setup if done correctly.

 

 

i hear you guys praising the gsr block with b16 head combo alot but what about the b16 block with a gsr head? what does that do?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T3T495GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i hear you guys praising the gsr block with b16 head combo alot but what about the b16 block with a gsr head? what does that do?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ive heard about b16 block/GSR head but dunt think much of it. the 1.6L block doesnt supply enough torque compared to a B18. i have an integ and everyone knows its rediculous to throw a b16 in a car as heavy as an integ, an EG is ok tho. unless you have an EG, i would sell the b16 block and get an LS block. i also found b16 short blocks run for cheaper than a LS short block too.

 

well i had no choice at the time, so i basterdized my car wiht a b16 block. i was just wondering if there is any benefit to running this setup . ive noticed there is less tq myself too so there is more traction, the thing is a beast up top though. i have a shorter stroke and it can actually rev higher than my b18c1 block did. Check my sig. that is with a b16 block and gsr stock head .

 

It really all comes down to how much Horsepower you want. With either set up, LS/Vtec or straight GSR, you'll make good power after it's all built. Both blocks can handle 600 horse on stock sleeves. That'll save ya a grand or more if you don't want more then 600. If I didn't buy a GSR, I would've went with the LS/Vtec setup cause it probably would've gained me a little more torque and horsepower. Now in order to even be making 600 horse on stock sleeves, your gonna need a good turbo kit that's every efficent! Highly recommend FullRace Turbo Kits. They're one of the best! And like I said dude... How much you do depends on how much horsepower you want. Set yourself a horsepower goal, then build based on that. Sleeves, no sleeves, what turbo you're gonna wanna run, Street or full drag?


Modified by BLKTeg94 at 10:55 PM 2/28/2006

 

Read the new HCI magazine they did a test on the ls crank and the gsr crank both in the same block same setups the GSR made power faster and held tq longer through the power band...I am running a darton sleeved 84.5mm GSR 8-8-1 Wiseco pistons and H-beam rods and ferrea valves and JG engine dynamics dual valve springs and titanium retainers and HUGE TURBO I have been driving so much TQ that I streatch 4 timing belts and busted the shaft on my axles on a launch at the race's I love how fast it accelerates wouldn't trade it for a ls-vtec got one in my 4dr and still would choose to build that one over my GSR
Vtec motor to already setup

 

look at my signature... for my set up ...wouldnt have done it any other way .. for a street car which can clock high 10's @ track


B18C1 block , 84mm Darton Mids , Wiseco 9.0:1 , Crowers Pro Billet , LS Crankshaft plus more..

B18C5 P73 head , Crower Valvetrain , ITR / CTR cams w Full Race Stg 2 GT kit ..plus more!!!

goodluck on your build

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JLHDOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love how fast it accelerates wouldn't trade it for a ls-vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Im really not sure what im doing but I know someone selling an built B16A (JDM block) has the following insde, CP 81.5mm pistons, CR 9:1, Eagle rods, ARP headstuds, bore and hone sleeve crank, gsr cams. would this set-up work good with a GT35R and say a neukin manifold and some other accessories. you know what I mean. A good turbo set-up say running 12 lbs min.? Upmost is 19lbs? what do you think?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spike101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im really not sure what im doing but I know someone selling an built B16A (JDM block) has the following insde, CP 81.5mm pistons, CR 9:1, Eagle rods, ARP headstuds, bore and hone sleeve crank, gsr cams. would this set-up work good with a GT35R and say a neukin manifold and some other accessories. you know what I mean. A good turbo set-up say running 12 lbs min.? Upmost is 19lbs? what do you think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

depending on the kind of bore and crank used, your gunna lose torque that a simple b18A/B/C can supply stock

 

true. But I am kinda looking for price wise to. Not trying to spend alot of money for power. get something that someone kinda built and maybe add on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spike101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">true. But I am kinda looking for price wise to. Not trying to spend alot of money for power. get something that someone kinda built and maybe add on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then in that case run a stock Ls boosted build up something on the side my buddy puts down some power with his stock ls setup as far as the B16 goes you might wanna consider that bore size before you go boosting it stock sleeves can handle boost just not extream boost psi....

 

psi doesn't matter when it comes to boost... You can be pushing 30 psi and only making 300 hp and be perfectly fine. HP is what counts, psi doesn't mean anything. 81.5mm on a B16 block is umm... that's pretty much the max bore you could go with it so. You could boost that motor past 19 if you wanted. I'd even go with a diff turbo. the GT35R's are dope, but for the price. You could buy a SC6176E for half the cost and have more hp! turbo wouldn't be spooling quite as soon but you'd be making up for it on the top end. That turbo is good for 680 horse.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKTeg94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">psi doesn't matter when it comes to boost... You can be pushing 30 psi and only making 300 hp and be perfectly fine. HP is what counts, psi doesn't mean anything. 81.5mm on a B16 block is umm... that's pretty much the max bore you could go with it so. You could boost that motor past 19 if you wanted. I'd even go with a diff turbo. the GT35R's are dope, but for the price. You could buy a SC6176E for half the cost and have more hp! turbo wouldn't be spooling quite as soon but you'd be making up for it on the top end. That turbo is good for 680 horse.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The SC61 uses the same compressor wheel, a smaller compressor housing, and a smaller turbine wheel than a GT35R. An SC61 will not "make up for it on the top end", because it won't make as much power as a 35R on the top end.