Wytek9

I will be using b16b block stock sleeve with 89mm crankshaft and 81mm Cp pistons & Eagle rods, CTR cylinder head, manifold,cams, fuel used will be 97 octane. Im choosing a turbo between T3 60-1 .63 ar exhaust turbine or T3/TO4E 57 trim .60 ar compressor wheel .63 ar turbine wheel. Which of this turbo will be effiecient and usable power in my set-up since i will stick to 1.8L only. My goal is to shoot for 11's in 1/4 mi.

blinx9900

Why not step up to an 84mm bore? I had a t3/t04e on my b16b, it was nice, i now have a GT3076r which i like a lot better... 11's is fast, how much power are you trying to get?

SIXTY-1HATCH

either one will do the trick. I personally run the 60-1 on my 84mm gsr, 16psi got my hatch full weight with subs n all to 11.0 @ 129 on slicks. The 57 trim will get you there, but your gonna be maxing the turbo out.

Ls_dx

iTrader: (5)

"why not" just step up to an 84 bore and a portflow head and a FR/42R, Motec, Dogbox... oh yeah.. money IS an object these days

Wytek9

Since i will only stick to 1.8L what's your vote for the turbo? 60-1 or 57 trim?

b00stedOne

iTrader: (1)

I would like to know too because I picked up a 60-1 to run on my 81.5mm ls-vtec. (it has a stage 5 compressor wheel). Im not sure if its overkill or not, but im looking for around 450whp.

miguel329

ethir one they are both good turbos...

Wytek9

thanks migs... maybe ill get the 60-1 with .63 ar.

Boosted_B_Series

Excellent choice, I recently built a 00si piston rod cam b16, t3/44, 60-1 .63 upgraded wheel. Worked out great, car got down, customer was thrilled.

blinx9900

Yes but it will not cost anymore money to build a sleeved 81mm vs a sleeved 84mm unless he already bought 81mm pistons but that could have solved with better planning. Honestly, who sleeves a block and builds an 81mm motor?

Wytek9

what rpm start to spool the 60-1 .63 ar in b16 and what rpm hits full boost?

Leland

57trim will be too small for your goals. If your building the block get something that will make 500whp such as the gt3076 or the tubonetics 60-series, greddy t67, even the hks gt3037 has an almost 500hp rating...Stick with the stock bore if your not sleeving it, it'll hold up a lot longer.

Ls_dx

iTrader: (5)

But I think he said it is a stock sleeve build...

Schister66

It really depends on your use for the car. The 60-1 is obviously going to be laggier, but allow you to make more power. Having said that, the 57 trim will still get you into the mid 400whp range which is more than enough on the street.

blinx9900

oh crap, i just read it twice and missed the stock part, i need to slow down lol.

Leland

The lag can be made up mostly by shortening your piping route, and it shouldn't be too awfully bad but i'd rather have more room to work with in the end bc these turbo's aren't cheap and buying another one in the future if he decides to build will be another grand ya know?

b00stedOne

iTrader: (1)

yeah once the boost bug bites you, your ****ed. You will spend every cent you have to go faster.
I know all about it

Boosted_B_Series

Me, lol... My s366 build is GE sleeved, O ringed 81/89mm.

It has a lot longer forced induction life.

84mm is cool and all, but leaves little room for error.

I plan to have my block for years and years to come and having my turbo block a valve drop away from being a NA block doesn't sound good to me.

I have both 81/89mm and 84/89mm at my shop and I honestly thought there would be a huge difference, but its not enough for me.

My 81/89mm setup trapped 134mph on 93 octane, full weight dc, 1.9 sixty foot, lol.

SIXTY-1HATCH

My old 57 trim on my ls would full boost around 3k, and my sixty on my 84mm gsr sees boost around 4k, and full boosting and blowin the doors off @ vtec (5200).

I don't know about you, but I don't like being in boost down low, unless it's a low hp car. I don't wanna be driving round town in boost. My car drives like a normal all motor car on part throttle, then you whack it hard and it turns into a 10 sec. BEAST!!!

My vote goes to the sixty, obviously, it's my name!!

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Myself also. We found there was no real point in going 84mm GE without the complementing stroke of at least 89mm. Good response in the time attack Honda.. wouldn't change a thing.