madracer

I have turbo B16A2 motor in my 2000 Civic SI, and I was wondering if it makes any sense changing the B16 cams to a set off GSR cams.??? I heard the GSR cams will be better for the B16 when boosting.??
Do any of you know the SPEC'S on the both cams??? eg: duration, rpm range and intake and exhaust specs.???
I did a search for this on google but not coming across any strong answers, you get different specs from different adds on google..

look foward to your experience and comments...

midnightrider

Crower has some stock cam specs along with there cam specs to compare on there web site. dunno if that will help you.

Schister66

Not sure on the specs, but you will see an increase in power using the GSR cams on boost. If you have the money, upgrading straight to ITR cams would be a better move. What kind of power are you making? Details on the setup?

b16_sol_707

Here you go:

Description: Specs from Civic Si (B16A2) Advertised Duration: int 284 mid exh 282 mid Duration @ .050": int 224 mid exh 220 mid Gross Lift w/1.55 int 412 mid exh 379 mid

Description: Specs from GSR (B18C1) Advertised Duration: int 290 mid exh 292 mid Duration @ .050": int 236 mid exh 224 mid Gross Lift w/1.55 int 423 mid exh 378 mid

Description: Specs from CTR (B16B) Advertised Duration: int 294 mid exh 305 mid Duration @ .050": int 240 mid exh 232 mid Gross Lift w/1.55 int 447 mid exh 416 mid

Description: Crower Stage 2 (forced induction) Advertised Duration: int 308 mid exh 309 mid Duration @ .050": int 233 mid exh 235mid Gross Lift w/1.55 int 466 mid exh 445 mid


Modified by b16_sol_707 at 12:29 AM 10/27/2008


Modified by b16_sol_707 at 12:30 AM 10/27/2008

ABK

On boosted setup you can gain around 20whp by swapping to gsr cams. I don't know about on motor. Pretty easy to put in so doesn't hurt anything to try.

madracer

Thank you for the info, but do you think I should change out my B16A2 Cams for the GSR cams.??? Would I see the difference.????

madracer

What is the RPM range on the GSR cams vs the B16A2.???
I know on a B16A2 motor it read lines at 8200 RPM where the rev limiter kicks in, but the cam makes its most power at 7600 RPM.
Also is there any difference between the valve springs.??????


Modified by madracer at 2:37 AM 10/27/2008


Modified by madracer at 2:38 AM 10/27/2008


Modified by madracer at 2:52 AM 10/27/2008

madracer

Thank you for the info, I found it last night and would like to get a set of nice cams but money is running slow these days, that's why I'm looking at the GSR cams or TypeR cams but they are hard to come by.

madracer

Take a look at my link and click on the pics and go the pictures with the car.
http://www.myspace.com/ny4pd
Also the motor is a B16A2 dead stock internals, B16 Tranny, and the Turbo is a T3 with a inlet of AR42/AR48. The Turbo spools up nicely at around 2500/2700 to who knows. The car is just street tune a little, and awaiting to dyno tune soon by Billet Design here in Florida in Pompano Beach. The Computer is a P28 chipped with chrome software, the car runs nice pulls hard but everthing else you can see in the photo: AEM Fuelrail, Aem Fuel Regulator, Walbro hp 255 fuel pump, DSM 450 injectors with the resistor box installed but hidden, 38mm Tial wastegate, the real HKS BOV no knock off, Skunk2 Pro-series intake manifold and NGK 1 step colder spark plugs. The Tail wastegate has a 7.25lb spring in it. hope this answer your question... thank you...

marcj

GSR cams are cheap and a nice upgrade for the b16, turbo or not..
I picked mine up for 50 bucks

ABK

you can upgrade to it, but don't rev past 8300. You will also need a new tune before you go ripping on it.

96 GSR-T

http://www.evans-tuning.com/dy....html

Dont get no better than this

B.

if anything just run the exhaust cam, you wont notice much of a difference between the b16 and b18 intake cam lobes..

madracer

Thanks guys, I have located a set of ITR cams, so I'm looking into that now maybe that will be better. Only what valve springs should I use the stock B16A2 valve spring or some other type.???

Schister66

You can run the stock valvetrain as long as you stay with the stock redline.

ABK

if you are going to run itr cams get better valve springs to use the moved up power band.

drabbit

Hey Im wondering if you can help me, if you can clear my mind. In new in this and I got a civic SI 1999 with a B16A2 engine. I will like to know if its a good idea to change cams to a set of GSR cams. I know you did that with your car, but the difference is that I dont like turbos, so maybe you can tell me what do you thing about this.

Christopherian1982

what year gsr cams can you put on a 00' b16a? Curious cause i wanna do this setup as well...

drabbit

Hey Im new at this, so im wondering if someone can clear that doubt to me aswell.. Im sorry dude... If I find the answered I'll let you know!!!

Christopherian1982

thanks ill let you know as well if i find it sooner.

jdmlosc

Bump for a lot of good info....

Jman8108

From what I've seen in this thread it seems that the GSR cam upgrade is more noticeable with the exhaust cam, and they ITR cam upgrade is more noticeable with the intake cam. Could you run a hybrid setup using an ITR intake cam and a GSR exhaust cam for boost?

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

You can, but most people have found it unnecessary to mix the two. Only distributorships sell them individually. Most people themselves will not.

siblues

iTrader: (1)

I thought it took alot of cam adjustment to get them to show such good numbers.I think it was Jeff Evans that did some cam adjustments to get the nice numbers and if it takes alot of time on the dyno to get them dialed in right wouldnt it make more sense to get aftermarket cams?

azandford

i just swapped my b16 cams for gsr cams today i will dyno on thursday and we'll see how much of a ifference they make on the same boost level