Bwhit12

Alright this is my first motor build up for some serious power. I will be building on a B16 block and B16 head. Here are my plans so far, but I want some input from you guys on what I am missing.

Eagle Rods
JE Pistons
Crower cams
Darton Sleeves
Not sure what to do with valve train(Any suggestions)
Should I just use the stock crank?
I was also how big of pistons I should use?
What bearings would be best?
Is the intake mani a big deal?


I want this car to be super clean and super super reliable. I am willing to put the money out there to make sure this car has no problems. Can someone shoot me a link to some good info on compression or let me know what they know about it. I am pretty confused slash lost when it comes to that. Any help would be amazing.

Thanks guys,
Billy

Leland

Just have your crank checked and balanced but stocker is fine. A lot of people like oem bearings and swear by them, i've used them as well as acl's, etc. What are your power goals? Obviously with what you're planning on doing you'll be able to make serious power. If you plan on using some gsr cams just keep your head stock and you should be fine but if you plan on using some big cams, usually you'd match your valvetrain with the brand of cams you buy. Good luck...

Bwhit12

I wanna make some serious power. I wanna get into 300 maybe even 400, but like I said before I wanna be safe about it. Wouldn't the Crwoer Cams or I'm not aure of another brand be best to push the high horses? And what valave train would I use with these cams?

Bwhit12

Well I did some talking with some guys I ran into today and they suggested I should just run GSR Cams and change out my valve train too. He also suggested using wiseco pistons with the eagle rods. Can someone give me insight and with me wanting to get lots of power what kind of compression should I be wanting to run?

Bwhit12

I am having trouble starting my car up. Turns over, but won't start. I do have one ground that I have no clue where it goes to. I have one to the top of the motor and one on the tranny. The ground I don't know where it goes comes off of the wire harness. Can anyone explain slash show(by picture) where it hooks up. Thanks

Bwhit12

Can anyone else give input on the whole turbo setup. What would you use if you were building your B16?

90 JDM EF8

iTrader: (1)

im not trying to hate but if all you want is 300-400 hp then you are wasting your money on all those parts...i have a bone stock b16 with a tiny greddy 18g turbo and making 350 hp and its been going for a couple years now...go talk to a good tuner and he will tell you the best turbo for your setup...good luck...ohh and that ground goes to your starter

Bwhit12

I can not find a bolt small enough to fit in the ground hole. How good has your turbo been treating you?

90 JDM EF8

iTrader: (1)

it should be a 10mm or 8mm bolt...its great since i have gone external wastegate and im shooting for 10's this weekend with this setup

Ls_dx

iTrader: (5)

If you r going to sleeve a block, I would go out and find a good GSR block... just a way better platform to build on.

as for the B16 build, Id get a type R intake mani, and cams, stock cam gears, and boost that youd be amazed about how easy it is to make 300-350 reliable HP and how fun it is.

Bwhit12

I have not heard anything about the type R cams. I am still considering getting the wiseco pistons with the thicker wall on them. I have heard they will help out the reliability a lot. If I do run the type R cams should I just keep the stock Vtrain? What turbo does everyone recommend?

cm8719500

If you are gonna sleeve your block then Im guessing youre gonna boost it..?

If you want good power go with a full race or peak boost turbo kit...

As far as using ITR cams? you dont really need them...
Ive seen people make over 400whp with gsr cams... although having a ITR or CTR intake cam would help...

Now the valvetrain.. if you are looking for reliability then upgrade to some dual springs (skunk 2,Blox,supertech)

What do you have so far....????

Bwhit12

Well right now I am just going to be running a fully stock B16A with a Greddy t3/t4 and all the other turbo parts and I am only going to run like 5 to 7 psi, but I am getting another B16 block to build. I want to sleeve with wiseco pistons and eagle rods and my real question is how would everyone go with the head? And should I go for 9:1 comp or lower? And when I do up the boost what will I have to do electronically?

Ls_dx

iTrader: (5)

You make no sense... dont need R cams, but put dual springs on a stock cam??

match up the springs up with the cam u are gonna run. honda dual springs are good for honda cams.

Bwhit12

Any other thoughts? I want some suggestions on how to build a nice head that will run 400 hp

Atrain89

If your only shooting for 400whp, you dont really need to have the block sleeved. I have heard of stock b16s making 400whp, however like you mentioned you want be keep it more on the safe side. This is what you can do:

Have the block bored to 81.5mm
Have the crank balanced
get a set of eagle rods
cp 9:1 pistons
acl bearings
arp rod bolts and head studs

As for the head, I would go with just some supertech valve springs and retainers, you can run b16 cams, but if you can get your hands on a some gsr cams, they would be better. You can use the type r intake manifold if you want or the edlebrock victor x is also a good choice.
Just make sure you have proper fueling and a good tuner.

Bseriescivic5

Sleeving the block is unecessary for anything under 450whp. And in my opinion if this is a street car, anything over 300 is pretty much nuts on the street. You already have the B16a block, so go with that, dont waste any more money on a b18a, or GSR, its not needed. Get yourself a good machine shop and have them bore/hone the block over to the size of pistons your getting Example: stock bore is 81mm, so say 81.5 (this cleans up the cylinder walls and makes sure they are perfectly circular. As for cams, again this is something that is not needed if you intend on making only 300-400hp. Anything more than that, and you can start looking into ITR/CTR cams. Your stock valve train should be fine as long as you keep the stock rev limit. REMember, RPMs kills motors. Stock crank will be fine, although you might want to have it checked, magnifluxed, ect. The piston and rod combo you mentioned is fine, a set of OEM, or ACL bearings will be fine as well, some people prefer OEM, some like ACL, really when it comes down to bearings its all about your engine builder, so make sure you do your research on that end. Your Stock Intake manifold is fine, again to about 400whp or so, Infact its prob good to alittle bit beyond that. But as I stated earlyer, if this is a street car, 350-400whp is PLENTTYY. BEst of luck and DO YOUR RESEARCH, every question you have asked here has been covered in this forum, over and over, and over again.

Bwhit12

Thanks for all that great info. I think you have answered just about everything I need. Is boring out to 81.5 still pretty safe and keep the motor reliable??? I realize that just about all this stuff will be somewhere on here or on some other forum. I spend way to much time looking around for stuff and normally can never find exactly what I need. Thanks for the help.

cm8719500

You're right.... but if he plans on reving anything over 8k he's gonna need the dual springs...

Bwhit12

Anyone know where you can purchase a B16 sleeved block?

Atrain89

look around on here in the marketplace section. Although you really dont need a sleeved b16. If your going to buy a sleeved motor you may as well get a gsr block.

Bwhit12

I don't wanna go GSR block because my mani will not fit on the GSR block and I just wanna stick B16. I understand all about the more power with the GSR and everything but I am just going to stick with B16. I may not even go sleeved I still have time to decide I just wanted to see what everyone thought. Thanks

cm8719500

I have a Benson sleeved 84mm b16 Block for sale.... Pm me Ill let if go for dirt cheap...

I have no use for it....

I even have some BC rods and 9:1 Cp 84mm pistons...

Oh and I even have a golden eagle 84mm head gasket if you are interested...

Let me know and we will work out a deal...