adubaz7

I have a stock b16 with 60-1 82 a/r stage 5 running 7psi I just got the car running and car runs drives great I am tuning with s300 I have my afr set good and safe I have been tuning on 110 just because I have no idea on timing I just chose the sc61 turbo calibration. are the numbers in the grid the total timing or advace timing and at 7 psi with pump gas what is a tipicke timing #s

also what kind of whp should I be seing from 7 psi and 60-1

Schister66

why the hell would you put a 60-1 .82 ar on a stock b16 on 7psi?? Do you like having boost AT REDLINE??

There are tons of turbo choices that are WAY better than that

adubaz7

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why the hell would you put a 60-1 .82 ar on a stock b16 on 7psi?? Do you like having boost AT REDLINE??

There are tons of turbo choices that are WAY better than that</TD></TR></TABLE>

have you got experience with that setup? NO
my car with a very rough tune makes full boost at about 5200 on a third gear pull
but the main reason is that I have big plans for the car but I would like to learn the s300 while I build a few thousnd dollar engine not to mention I just got this car about 2 months ago

Schister66

whatever...have fun w/ your lag. That's a terrible choice on a stock b16

TsujenDB1

ive got a 60-1 on my ls and making full boost at 4100.... kthx

adubaz7

Thanks for all of your help sir I dont know if I could do this without you

TheShodan

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TsujenDB1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive got a 60-1 on my ls and making full boost at 4100.... kthx </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll bet the farm that the version of that 60-1 you have is using a 2.559" (aka the Stage III) wheel, and will work for a bit, but top end would suffer a bit.

needmypass

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lol you called it

Schister66

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have you got experience with that setup? NO
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actually i had a 60-1 on a topmount....i hated it actually. I know have a GT3255 and love it...kthx

needmypass

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually i had a 60-1 on a topmount....i hated it actually. I know have a GT3255 and love it...kthx</TD></TR></TABLE>

man what haven't you had???

BoostR41

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I am using that exhaust wheel in a .63AR exhaust housing. it seems to work good for me. although I havent pushed the turbo past 23psi yet so who knows what my graph will look like at 26psi or so. I would say 24-26 will be maxing it out

TheShodan

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I am using that exhaust wheel in a .63AR exhaust housing. it seems to work good for me. although I havent pushed the turbo past 23psi yet so who knows what my graph will look like at 26psi or so. I would say 24-26 will be maxing it out</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're absolutely right, but that stage III exhaust wheel will create existential heat at about 19-22psi, and IATs will me an unfortunate gremlin with that combination.

96 GSR-T

just set it to 16 or 17 degrees in boost to be safe, get an EGT gague to make sure things are right.

adubaz7

thanks that is about where I am right now about 18 and no problems car runs great but does not feal like alot of power maybe 250 at the crank is that right at 7psi on a 60-1

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adubaz7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks that is about where I am right now about 18 and no problems car runs great but does not feal like alot of power maybe 250 at the crank is that right at 7psi on a 60-1 </TD></TR></TABLE>

dont count on teh butt dyno, make sure your timing is in sync with what is showing on the S300 screen, it could say 18 on the screen but the motor only be at lets say 15..... i know from personal experience 7 psi on any turbo wont make huge amounts of power, I wouldnt worry about that too much, just dont get timing happy.

DragWerks

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have you got experience with that setup? NO
my car with a very rough tune makes full boost at about 5200 on a third gear pull
but the main reason is that I have big plans for the car but I would like to learn the s300 while I build a few thousnd dollar engine not to mention I just got this car about 2 months ago </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow... I get 8-10psi in 3rd gear on my B16 between 5200-5500 rpm with a 60-1 hifi w/ a .63/stg3 hotside... and thats running 1bar w/ a profec on pump gas with more timing then you have... You must have a very efficient setup...

Anyway, use 1deg/psi retard till you get to the dyno, that should be safe enough... search on reading plugs also... btw, pump gas will be fine...

blackeg

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Anyway, use 1deg/psi retard till you get to the dyno, that should be safe enough... search on reading plugs also... btw, pump gas will be fine...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah thats not a bad idea at all.

id imagine youd be fine with running around 22* total if the air fuel is 11's and you are on 7-8 psi. run some 7 range plugs if you arent doing so already.

most importantly, get on the dyno. street tunes are good for getting your afr dialed in pretty well, but rather hard to properly tune timing without a tq curve to use.

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the main reason is that I have big plans for the car but I would like to learn the s300 while I build a few thousnd dollar engine not to mention I just got this car about 2 months ago </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a fine plan and dont let other people tell you otherwise. always better to plan bigger so you dont have to rebuy ****.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whatever...have fun w/ your lag. That's a terrible choice on a stock b16</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude with the b16 gearing he will always be in full boost when racing anyway, so the lag will just make it more stock like to drive around town without boosting up every hill and stuff.

btw, i run that 60-1 .63 exhaust. on my 1.8L vtec it used to make 7-8 psi by about 4700. on my 2.0L vtec motor it makes 7-8 psi at 4400 or so, and i have my full 17 psi at 5000.

needmypass

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btw, i run that 60-1 .63 exhaust. on my 1.8L vtec it used to make 7-8 psi by about 4700. on my 2.0L vtec motor it makes 7-8 psi at 4400 or so, and i have my full 17 psi at 5000.</TD></TR></TABLE>

same here on tha LS/vtec

adubaz7

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yeah thats not a bad idea at all.

id imagine youd be fine with running around 22* total if the air fuel is 11's and you are on 7-8 psi. run some 7 range plugs if you arent doing so already.

most importantly, get on the dyno. street tunes are good for getting your afr dialed in pretty well, but rather hard to properly tune timing without a tq curve to use.

thats a fine plan and dont let other people tell you otherwise. always better to plan bigger so you dont have to rebuy ****.

dude with the b16 gearing he will always be in full boost when racing anyway, so the lag will just make it more stock like to drive around town without boosting up every hill and stuff.

btw, i run that 60-1 .63 exhaust. on my 1.8L vtec it used to make 7-8 psi by about 4700. on my 2.0L vtec motor it makes 7-8 psi at 4400 or so, and i have my full 17 psi at 5000.</TD></TR></TABLE>

as far as the tuning for timing goes I have no plan to do it on my own I am going to the dyno next week or the week after I was just wondering if maybe that is y car does not feal as strong as it could but I also have a lot of things I have to do to get ready for dyno day I am just happy that the car is running so good as is power will be there soon enough thanks for all ur input

btw you said 22 degrees with #7 plugs is that common or is that pretty high also with 110 in the tank what do most guys set for a total timing # at say 9psi on a 60-1

blackeg

with 110 its actually kinda low. when i wrote that i was thinking you were on 93 pump and forgot about 110. dont tune on 110 unless you want to only drive your car with it around. timing differences are huge and you will detonate if you tune on 110 and then have to run pump gas.


if you think it feels low on power do a compression and leakdown test. i do one every 2 or 3 months just to keep tabs on it.

even off a good street tune, you can come out of a dyno tune with 30 or more hp. my first time dyno tuning i made like 40hp and 30 tq on the same boost level just with some small tweaks and fine tuning

96 GSR-T

dont get curious, just set it safe on 93 and wait for the tuner, its not worth it....

adubaz7

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oh yeah for sure I am just leaving it how it is right now I will buy new plugs because I am not sure what is in the now and how old they are I just want to know that when I get to the tuner that everything has been thought out properly

fmfkid250

.78 per pound will be Fine ESP @ 7psi

I ran the 60-1 for 3 years It put 2 stock ls car into the 11's daily driven and my Built Drag car into the 10's

t3/60-1HO .63ar stg 3 wheel

needmypass

how about 93 tune to 91 octane anyone really seen detonation when switch from a conservative 93 oct. tune and filling up with 91???

turbo boost

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what kind of #s are u guys makin with the 60-1 on what psi????