Dracord

Got it from dsmtrader, guy said it was from a 97 gs-t, don't know if it was an auto or manual

It has DENSO written on one side, 195500-0610 on the other, and 228 on the blue part (where injector clip goes)

nevin

Don't think they are 450's thats all I can tell you.

MiraiZ

they don't even look like DSMs...were they painted? DSMs should say 450 on the top.

shortyz

yeah wtf are those.. i think u got taken..

it should say 450 on em..

MiraiZ

this is what my dsms looked like:

cornbread

Those do look like DSM 450 injectors to me but they aren’t from a 97 model. The 2g DSM injectors are green and black, those look like 1g 450 to me. I just installed 660 in my DSM so I have a set just like those sitting right here. .

DC2R714

Those do look like DSM injectors but they look like they are the automatic one's which aren't as big as the 5speed. I believe they are like 390cc. They definitely don't look like 450cc.

RedStarGsr

if you look at the stock honda injector and the dsm 450 injector, (btw, 1gs are blue, 2gs are black) there will be a little nub on the dsm injector that you are supposed to file down... my digi cam can't pick it up, but its on the inside wall and between the two prongs...the honda ones dont have em. hope that helps.

on a brigther note..my honda injectors had a green o-ring, and the dsm's had a thicker black one like yours... so maybe they are the 390s... you should be good for low boost i think, im no guru, just what i heard

Dracord

yeah i see where it needs to be filed down.



I guess the only way to tell is ship it to cruiznperformance for cleaning and blueprinting. I went to look for the ad that i got it from (dsmtrader) but it expired! The ad just said 450 Denso's, and i called him up and he said they were taking out of a 97 gs-t

i lost his phone number though

Dracord

and upon closer inspection it looks like they were painted because theres black stuff on the blue part, and on the bottom cap (pintle?)

Even if they are 1g injectors, I thought the 1g injectors were more a light blue?

Nextelbuddy

those injectors look TOO long to be dsm 450s/ my dsm 450;s were a lot shorter than those. they look weird

Dracord

if they are 450 cc ( i sent them to cruiznperformance for a flow test) how much of a problem would there be with that additional length?

i emailed the guy i purchased them from and he said they were from a manual gst

DarkLightning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dracord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if they are 450 cc ( i sent them to cruiznperformance for a flow test) how much of a problem would there be with that additional length?

i emailed the guy i purchased them from and he said they were from a manual gst</TD></TR></TABLE>
All 2G turbo DSMs have the same size injectors (in terms of flow rate): 450cc. 1G turbo DSMs have two flow rates, 390cc automatic transmission injectors with a 13G turbo and 450cc manual transmission injectors with a 14B turbo. 1G and 2G non-turbo injectors are *cough* useless *cough* even to Honduh guys.

[ edit ] As for those injectors, I've done a few cursory searches with Google plus a quick look around NABR, and found nothing. It's looking like you got screwed, but let's see what they flow. [ /edit ]

Sinner

I was at the bone yard and which I was searching for 450's and this guy pulls up an fuel rail with what looks like dsm from a few feet away, asked him about them and the car they came off of wasnt a DSM. They where the wrong color blue.

looks like the same injector

Dracord

uh oh....

according to this page



L-R Stock 205cc, Eclipse 370cc (turbo auto), Eclipse 450cc (turbo stock), RX7 460cc

http://users.pandora.be/miata/...s.htm


I think i just got hosed for some 205cc injectors

Cractos

i have a set of 1g dsm injectors and they dont look like those

tjbizzo

They look exactly like the RX7 460cc high impedance injectors on the right, except with blue tops instead of red. If so then that is a good thing, right?

Dracord

but it says the ones on the left are 205cc injectors and they have the same color top as the ones i do

tjbizzo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dracord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but it says the ones on the left are 205cc injectors and they have the same color top as the ones i do</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, but look at the SHAPE of the plastic clips. Are yours oval or rectangular? See how your guide rails on the plug are top/bottom and not left/right? See how the little tabs that hold the clips on are on the sides and slanted towards the back like the RX7 460cc? See how the large OD of the body has a sharp edge when it narrows down on the pintle end and not a beveled edge like the three on the left? The blue top injectors in your first post really, really, really look like the RX7 460cc injector on the right except for the color of the plastic.

Dracord

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tjbizzo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, but look at the SHAPE of the plastic clips. Are yours oval or rectangular? See how your guide rails on the plug are top/bottom and not left/right? See how the little tabs that hold the clips on are on the sides and slanted towards the back like the RX7 460cc? See how the large OD of the body has a sharp edge when it narrows down on the pintle end and not a beveled edge like the three on the left? The blue top injectors in your first post really, really, really look like the RX7 460cc injector on the right except for the color of the plastic. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's what rich at cruiznperformance said. I just looked at it and you're both right, i guess i was just scared by the similar color

Dracord

so rich just emailed me back and said they are 678ml/min...does that mean 678cc?!?!

HondaDNA93

I know this is old but was looking for these same injectors for a friend and came up with this:

195500 0610= 1.9ohm 660cc/min


http://www.injectorrx.com/densotf.html

lsturbo33

http://www.witchhunter.com/flowdatapix/d1955000610.jpg

found this in 30 seconds on google with your part number. Looks like the above post is correct.