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Old 06-02-2004, 10:17 PM
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Default another B16 hp question. can it be done ?

is this possible??

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RC 550cc injectors.

i'm told this will rev to 9k rpm, maybe more. what do you guys think?

i'm wanting to hit 300whp on 91 octane.
possible??

anyone know how much torque the B16 can hold?

i did a search and found nobody with this setup. any help would be appreciated. thanks.
Old 06-02-2004, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

are you gonna run any "safety" **** like... head studs...thicker head gasket??
Old 06-02-2004, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (SeanEF)

possibly ARP studs..

i CAN run a thicker head gasket if i need to. i could use the lower compression anyway.
Old 06-02-2004, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

yes its easily possible. BUT...

1) you don't need to rev that high to get 300hp. this will make it alot harder on your motor.

2) that turbo is WAY TO BIG for a goal of 300hp.
Old 06-02-2004, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (ndogg)

Yeah, turbo is WAY too big, should trade me for my SC34, I could use a 63 with my built motor
Old 06-03-2004, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (ndogg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ndogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes its easily possible. BUT...

1) you don't need to rev that high to get 300hp. this will make it alot harder on your motor.

2) that turbo is WAY TO BIG for a goal of 300hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good news. i don't want to HAVE to rev to 9k.

turbo too big...yes, we know this.. but i already have it.

it's on a GS-R motor that WAS going to built some day. had a goal of 500whp. now, reality is settling in and i'm realizing that won't be happening any time soon.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reilly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, turbo is WAY too big, should trade me for my SC34, I could use a 63 with my built motor </TD></TR></TABLE>

trade you the 34 and you pay for my new tune?? hahahah
Old 06-04-2004, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

update. just found out the motor has CTR cams. is this better or worse??
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

it can easily be done
Old 06-04-2004, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (drvfast)

cool. i've also decided to go with a smaller turbo if i can get rid of my current one. i'm gonna be on a stock motor for a while and don't need a turbo capable of eleventy billion horsepower.
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

yeah that goal should be easily hit with no problems
Old 06-05-2004, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (FOrSfEd)

what effect would it have if the motor had GS-R cams instead of B-16 or the CTR cams?
Old 06-05-2004, 09:58 AM
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I would keep stock redline with stock internals pushing 300+ whp.
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
head:
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</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good valve train setup 9,000RPM is possible with that setup but you wont need to rev that high.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would keep stock redline with stock internals pushing 300+ whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Good valve train setup 9,000RPM is possible with that setup but you wont need to rev that high.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is good news for me! i don't WANT to rev it any higher than need be "overbuilt and underpowered" is our motto.
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why does everyone look only at the head for rpm limitations? stock rods and pistons wont like high rpms to much....i say keep stock redline until the bottom end gets some attention
Old 06-05-2004, 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quik sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why does everyone look only at the head for rpm limitations? stock rods and pistons wont like high rpms to much....i say keep stock redline until the bottom end gets some attention</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's why i said i would rather not have to rev it any higher than needed
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that's why i said i would rather not have to rev it any higher than needed </TD></TR></TABLE>

you won't need to at all...i stopped @ 7800rpms and still easily made over 300whp (t3/to4e 60 trim)
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

That turbo is way too big for that application. I think your going to hate waiting for it to spool which isnt justified by only 300hp. I say trade it for the SC34 (or smaller) that Reilly has.
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (Muckman)

I second the motion for a smaller snail. Lag will own you. Trade for that SC34 and love your life when boost hits!


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That turbo is way too big for that application. I think your going to hate waiting for it to spool which isnt justified by only 300hp. I say trade it for the SC34 (or smaller) that Reilly has.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blaze45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I second the motion for a smaller snail. Lag will own you. Trade for that SC34 and love your life when boost hits!


Blaze</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, i know all this. the turbo is all i have right now. Reilly wants to keep his 'cause though he is going 2L, he will be at 9.5:1 comp. he's worried about spooling the SC63 even still.
i gotta work with what i have.
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Default Re: another B16 hp question. can it be done ? (kaj)

Then it makes more sense to get at least a block gaurd and low compression pistons and boost the crap out of it.
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for sure but that's after i get money together to build the bottom end
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