Aftermarket Axles - List your setup
12-04-2005, 06:38 PM
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The name says it all
Posts: 3,392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Aftermarket Axles - List your setup
Well after running on OEM axles for the season both of mine are clicking, so now that i have the opportunity to do some work since my car is stored for the winter i was going to invest in some aftermarket axles as well as an LSD.
I was wondering what are some of you 400-600whp guys using as far as axles, and if you guys could recommend some as well as your experiences too.
My car is daily driven and will see track once springtime comes.
Any input would be great.
John
I was wondering what are some of you 400-600whp guys using as far as axles, and if you guys could recommend some as well as your experiences too.
My car is daily driven and will see track once springtime comes.
Any input would be great.
John
12-04-2005, 06:48 PM
#2
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: BeLlInGhAm, Wa
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (nY's FiNeSt)
DSS stage III axles. snapped both of them on my 3rd pass. Not real happy with them. A local buddy of mine that runs high 10's uses gator axles(seen him snap them three times). Ground Zero guys 600-700whp use DSS as well. But they use stage 5 and I've seen them towed away from the start line at least 6 times.
Axles break...look for the ones with the best warranty.(closest to you so you have less down time when they do break.)
Axles break...look for the ones with the best warranty.(closest to you so you have less down time when they do break.)
12-05-2005, 05:22 AM
#6
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 942
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (h22slohatch)
Gator High Performance....I really wouldnt recommend them for a street car. Mine is still a street car and whenever I make sharp turns they click cause of the big joint. Glenn said they are mostly for race use only..
12-05-2005, 05:56 AM
#7
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia Beach, Va, USA
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (anothaRRR)
I now use Gator stage 3's.
I have used DSS 2's before, here is a little summary for ya!
DSS 2's gone on the 4th pass down the 1/4 (with 9-10psi in slicks)
Stockers lasted for 3 passes (9-10psi)
Gators have lasted 3 passes (6-7 psi) with no problems yet
As you can see Ive been pretty frustrated this season, only getting 10 passes with the car. My 60's are very high 1.8-2.0's so it is not a problem with the launch.
Thank you Glenn!
I have used DSS 2's before, here is a little summary for ya!
DSS 2's gone on the 4th pass down the 1/4 (with 9-10psi in slicks)
Stockers lasted for 3 passes (9-10psi)
Gators have lasted 3 passes (6-7 psi) with no problems yet
As you can see Ive been pretty frustrated this season, only getting 10 passes with the car. My 60's are very high 1.8-2.0's so it is not a problem with the launch.
Thank you Glenn!
Trending Topics
12-05-2005, 06:39 AM
#8
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (CompressionFed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I now use Gator stage 3's.
I have used DSS 2's before, here is a little summary for ya!
DSS 2's gone on the 4th pass down the 1/4 (with 9-10psi in slicks)
Stockers lasted for 3 passes (9-10psi)
Gators have lasted 3 passes (6-7 psi) with no problems yet
As you can see Ive been pretty frustrated this season, only getting 10 passes with the car. My 60's are very high 1.8-2.0's so it is not a problem with the launch.
Thank you Glenn!</TD></TR></TABLE>
wouldnt the high 60's mean it IS a problem with the launch? you simply shouldnt be breaking axles like that... not w/ 11.75 hp.
I have used DSS 2's before, here is a little summary for ya!
DSS 2's gone on the 4th pass down the 1/4 (with 9-10psi in slicks)
Stockers lasted for 3 passes (9-10psi)
Gators have lasted 3 passes (6-7 psi) with no problems yet
As you can see Ive been pretty frustrated this season, only getting 10 passes with the car. My 60's are very high 1.8-2.0's so it is not a problem with the launch.
Thank you Glenn!</TD></TR></TABLE>
wouldnt the high 60's mean it IS a problem with the launch? you simply shouldnt be breaking axles like that... not w/ 11.75 hp.
12-05-2005, 06:47 AM
#9
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Charleston, Maine, USA
Posts: 788
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (nY's FiNeSt)
anyone running Fidanza axles? im only putting down a little shy of 300whp but i do have some fidanza's kicking around and i was just wondering if anyone has useds them? thanks!
12-05-2005, 06:54 AM
#10
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia Beach, Va, USA
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (LSTEG96)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSTEG96 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wouldnt the high 60's mean it IS a problem with the launch? you simply shouldnt be breaking axles like that... not w/ 11.75 hp. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really. If I was cutting 1.5-1.6 60's, obviously there's more strain on the axles. But Im spinning out the hole. I think with the clutch setup I use, my axles are breaking on the 1-2 shift. Thats my theory atleast.
Also, all motor hp is a little different than turbo hp. Even though my car only makes @280whp (compared to 600-700 turbo whp), the power is instant and violent...no gradual increase due to spooling issues.
All Motor cars often rip through gears and FD's and synchros. Ask Brad Z and Howard how many gears, FD's, and axles they went through last year!
wouldnt the high 60's mean it IS a problem with the launch? you simply shouldnt be breaking axles like that... not w/ 11.75 hp. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really. If I was cutting 1.5-1.6 60's, obviously there's more strain on the axles. But Im spinning out the hole. I think with the clutch setup I use, my axles are breaking on the 1-2 shift. Thats my theory atleast.
Also, all motor hp is a little different than turbo hp. Even though my car only makes @280whp (compared to 600-700 turbo whp), the power is instant and violent...no gradual increase due to spooling issues.
All Motor cars often rip through gears and FD's and synchros. Ask Brad Z and Howard how many gears, FD's, and axles they went through last year!
12-05-2005, 07:02 AM
#12
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia Beach, Va, USA
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (LSTEG96)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSTEG96 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ah ok... i guess all motor ok... how are u making 280? k series? or BALLER b series? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Its a bseries motor. If you look in the All Motor section you can read about the set-up. The dynograph that is posted was from our first dyno session ever, and after a few adjustments we are making just shy of 280whp. (the poor motor has more dyno pulls than 1/4 passes).
Its a bseries motor. If you look in the All Motor section you can read about the set-up. The dynograph that is posted was from our first dyno session ever, and after a few adjustments we are making just shy of 280whp. (the poor motor has more dyno pulls than 1/4 passes).
12-05-2005, 07:30 AM
#13
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (CompressionFed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its a bseries motor. If you look in the All Motor section you can read about the set-up. The dynograph that is posted was from our first dyno session ever, and after a few adjustments we are making just shy of 280whp. (the poor motor has more dyno pulls than 1/4 passes).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe you should change your title now, or do you have another car? Impressive, btw.
I did some searching on axles a few weeks ago, and it found out that NA cars are rougher on axles than turbo cars. I don't see how this would make a difference.
Maybe you should change your title now, or do you have another car? Impressive, btw.
I did some searching on axles a few weeks ago, and it found out that NA cars are rougher on axles than turbo cars. I don't see how this would make a difference.
12-05-2005, 08:31 AM
#14
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The name says it all
Posts: 3,392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (USE2B16A)
what kinda prices are you guys paying for gator stage 2/3 and DSS stage 2/3?
also what kind of warrenty is there
also what kind of warrenty is there
12-05-2005, 08:57 AM
#15
Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Virginia Beach, Va, USA
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (USE2B16A)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USE2B16A »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I did some searching on axles a few weeks ago, and it found out that NA cars are rougher on axles than turbo cars. I don't see how this would make a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said above, the power from all motor cars is instant, and very tough on parts. RLZ had to open their tranny often last year, another local racer Matt Kennedy has to swap his synchros every two weekends or so, and I've had my tranny open three times now in as many track appearances. Same goes for other all motor guys.
Im interested to know how often Cloyse and other all motor b series guys go through their tranny's.
I did some searching on axles a few weeks ago, and it found out that NA cars are rougher on axles than turbo cars. I don't see how this would make a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said above, the power from all motor cars is instant, and very tough on parts. RLZ had to open their tranny often last year, another local racer Matt Kennedy has to swap his synchros every two weekends or so, and I've had my tranny open three times now in as many track appearances. Same goes for other all motor guys.
Im interested to know how often Cloyse and other all motor b series guys go through their tranny's.
12-05-2005, 09:14 AM
#16
Who is Mr Robot?
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: ATL - Where the Pimps and Players dwell
Posts: 21,474
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes
on
10 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (USE2B16A)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USE2B16A »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Maybe you should change your title now, or do you have another car? Impressive, btw.
I did some searching on axles a few weeks ago, and it found out that NA cars are rougher on axles than turbo cars. I don't see how this would make a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>
he doesnt need to change his name... compression fed... high compression..... god it amazes me how little people understand.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSTEG96 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wouldnt the high 60's mean it IS a problem with the launch? you simply shouldnt be breaking axles like that... not w/ 11.75 hp. </TD></TR></TABLE>
11.75hp???
anyways, no complaits about the gators... they look pretty and feel solid
(motor still isnt in the car)
Maybe you should change your title now, or do you have another car? Impressive, btw.
I did some searching on axles a few weeks ago, and it found out that NA cars are rougher on axles than turbo cars. I don't see how this would make a difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>
he doesnt need to change his name... compression fed... high compression..... god it amazes me how little people understand.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSTEG96 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
wouldnt the high 60's mean it IS a problem with the launch? you simply shouldnt be breaking axles like that... not w/ 11.75 hp. </TD></TR></TABLE>
11.75hp???
anyways, no complaits about the gators... they look pretty and feel solid
(motor still isnt in the car)
12-05-2005, 02:43 PM
#17
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The name says it all
Posts: 3,392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (nY's FiNeSt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nY’s FiNeSt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kinda prices are you guys paying for gator stage 2/3 and DSS stage 2/3?
also how long of a warrenty do they carry</TD></TR></TABLE>
also how long of a warrenty do they carry</TD></TR></TABLE>
12-05-2005, 04:36 PM
#18
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (CompressionFed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Like I said above, the power from all motor cars is instant, and very tough on parts. RLZ had to open their tranny often last year, another local racer Matt Kennedy has to swap his synchros every two weekends or so, and I've had my tranny open three times now in as many track appearances. Same goes for other all motor guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry, I didn't read that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he doesnt need to change his name... compression fed... high compression..... god it amazes me how little people understand.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, I wasn't thinking before I typed that, now was I Mr. Honda-Tech post ***** *******? That is your job, isn't it? Let's see...6618 posts! That's 12.65 posts per day on average! +1 for you my friend!
Like I said above, the power from all motor cars is instant, and very tough on parts. RLZ had to open their tranny often last year, another local racer Matt Kennedy has to swap his synchros every two weekends or so, and I've had my tranny open three times now in as many track appearances. Same goes for other all motor guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry, I didn't read that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he doesnt need to change his name... compression fed... high compression..... god it amazes me how little people understand.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, I wasn't thinking before I typed that, now was I Mr. Honda-Tech post ***** *******? That is your job, isn't it? Let's see...6618 posts! That's 12.65 posts per day on average! +1 for you my friend!
12-06-2005, 09:38 AM
#20
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The name says it all
Posts: 3,392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (nY's FiNeSt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nY’s FiNeSt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kinda prices are you guys paying for gator stage 2/3 and DSS stage 2/3?
also how long of a warrenty do they carry
</TD></TR></TABLE>
also how long of a warrenty do they carry
</TD></TR></TABLE>
12-06-2005, 11:30 AM
#21
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (CompressionFed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not really. If I was cutting 1.5-1.6 60's, obviously there's more strain on the axles. But Im spinning out the hole. I think with the clutch setup I use, my axles are breaking on the 1-2 shift. Thats my theory atleast.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wheel hop maybe?
Not really. If I was cutting 1.5-1.6 60's, obviously there's more strain on the axles. But Im spinning out the hole. I think with the clutch setup I use, my axles are breaking on the 1-2 shift. Thats my theory atleast.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wheel hop maybe?
12-06-2005, 01:38 PM
#23
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: WA
Posts: 2,199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (GT40eg)
I'm sure driving/launching ability plays a big role in axles breaking, but I know a few people that have snapped gator axles... I would never buy them. I'd go with DSS if I ever decided to get aftermarket axles. My OEM axles hold up pretty well (haven't broke them yet) launching at 7k on slicks, but then again I am only making like 215-230whp
12-06-2005, 02:09 PM
#24
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (beerbongskickass)
from what i understand its the initial shock from the slack in the drivetrain that kills axles, diffs etc. if you preload the drivetrain so there is no slack then you shouldnt be breaking stuff so easily. 
12-06-2005, 05:01 PM
#25
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Charleston, sc, USA
Posts: 1,441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Aftermarket Axles - List your setup (CompressionFed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CompressionFed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I now use Gator stage 3's.
I have used DSS 2's before, here is a little summary for ya!
DSS 2's gone on the 4th pass down the 1/4 (with 9-10psi in slicks)
Stockers lasted for 3 passes (9-10psi)
Gators have lasted 3 passes (6-7 psi) with no problems yet
As you can see Ive been pretty frustrated this season, only getting 10 passes with the car. My 60's are very high 1.8-2.0's so it is not a problem with the launch.
Thank you Glenn!</TD></TR></TABLE>
There has to be a problem elsewere. I pulled 1.7 60's on average with stock axles. I broke a few but I cant think of a time when I got less then 5 passes on an axle. most of the time they broke going into 2nd. I would look deeper into your setup. I suspect a problem elsewere.
I have used DSS 2's before, here is a little summary for ya!
DSS 2's gone on the 4th pass down the 1/4 (with 9-10psi in slicks)
Stockers lasted for 3 passes (9-10psi)
Gators have lasted 3 passes (6-7 psi) with no problems yet
As you can see Ive been pretty frustrated this season, only getting 10 passes with the car. My 60's are very high 1.8-2.0's so it is not a problem with the launch.
Thank you Glenn!</TD></TR></TABLE>
There has to be a problem elsewere. I pulled 1.7 60's on average with stock axles. I broke a few but I cant think of a time when I got less then 5 passes on an axle. most of the time they broke going into 2nd. I would look deeper into your setup. I suspect a problem elsewere.