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Old 04-23-2010, 12:58 PM
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im having an issue =( at cruising and driving around town, which is stop and go, i usually run anywhere between 12.5-13.0, and at full boost. (7psi) im at 10.1-11.4, Now today i turn on my car to warm up for 10 min. then im off, and i notice light accelaration my AFR's were at 16-17.8 i was like wow!! thats not good. then under boost it falls down to 11.2-12.4. then i jump on the freeway and at cruising 70mph my AFR's are at 16.8-17.9 but mainly in the 17's. can you guys let me know whats happening? im running 550's with stock fuel rail and fpr. with a walbro. its a built LS/Vtec motor with standard timing.

it freak me out because arriving to work it was in the 17's and it started stuttering in the parking lot before parking.
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anyone>? =/
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look for exhaust leaks before your wideband sensor
check your alternator
Old 04-23-2010, 03:51 PM
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calibrate your wideband in free air. good safe tune should be around 11.5-12.5 afr in boost, 14.5- 15.5 afr cruising under mild load.
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just checked and there is a exhaust leak on the weld of my downpipe.
alternator is fine.
i have the wide band bunged on my dp

how do i calibrate it in free air? its an AEM wideband, brand new.
i got it tuned at DNR the past weekend. it was fine untill today.
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and it did feel sluggish and starved.
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I had the same problem it was the iat and ect correction table
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The exhaust leak will cause your a/f ratios to be off...you should fix that...
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Originally Posted by ashb82
I had the same problem it was the iat and ect correction table
how did you resolve it?
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what tuning software
this should only be done by some one who knows what there doing
First check for exhaust leaks
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My AEM wideband does this at time too. When I does I notice my volt meter dropping down. Once back up to 14 volt it's fine again.
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Default Re: AFR'S Whack?!....

Originally Posted by tegman23
The exhaust leak will cause your a/f ratios to be off...you should fix that...
true, but he said the car started studdering which leads me to believe it really was running that lean rather than just a incorrect number on the gauge.


unless the wideband is sent to the ecu to run a open loop...


as said, check your voltage. also just a crapshoot but if you have a gm 3 bar map sensor check that. ive had 2 go bad on me in the past few years and this was what was happening to me
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Default Re: AFR'S Whack?!....

I recently ran into that same issue.

While driving on the highway its at 14.7-15.5 normaly @ 14volts.

Randomly my volts are dropping down to 12.0-12.4, changing my AFR's to 17.5-18.3 range. When this happens I also have a miss at idle or hesitant while driving.

Might be a loose connection or a failing alternator.
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tuner tuned it on Crome on 7lbs, untill i get stand alone. there is an exaust leak on the dp weld.

thats exactly what i said. it started stuttering. its wierd. im saving alot of fuel on highway though! ha. but not funny.

i do have a GM 3 bar. i might just have to buy a volt meter to have in my car and keep an eye on. how do you know if the 3 bar is bad?

Thats exactly what is happening to me JDMs1eeper. hmm im going to check my connections. alternator seems fine, but i'll check it.
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How old is your O2 sensor ?
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