AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block
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AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block
Is anyone using the AC autotechnic oil filter block? Or the golden eagle mfg oil filter block? What are the differences. I know that the AC one has 4 outlets for oil and the Eagle one has 2. Any other differences?
04-29-2003, 10:10 PM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (dualknuttz1)
I'll bet the a/c one is more money like the a/c scatter shield. cant say if it is better or not but i'm guessing it costs more
04-30-2003, 06:52 AM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, the ac is quite a bit cheaper 
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tonys right much cheaper by far for the ac adapter..
</TD></TR></TABLE>tonys right much cheaper by far for the ac adapter..
04-30-2003, 08:12 AM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (b18bturbo)
"Yes, I just killed your 56K modem, but I'll get over it as soon as you finish reading this. 
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I have had both, I would use either one in any of my engine builds. **I will say that I'm using the GEM block right now**
Anyways here is a quick and dirty comparision, I promise to post up some photos to help with the visuals.
GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black (I know color is not important but still a difference)
two output oil feed lines
output oil lines are filtered oil
includes one 6AN fitting
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Filter side of the GEM: oil is drawn from the filtered center pathway (arrow)
Block side of the GEM: oil pathways to the Vtec and turbo feed are shown (arrows) also note the double ridge Viton seal
Mounting of GEM: this is the first version that GEM released, it does not work with a oem oil cooler equipped block. They do have a new version that will work with both cooler and non-cooler blocks. I will also note that the pictured style requires removal of the oil filter nipple in your engine block.
Mounting of GEM: here you can see the filter side of the fitting, note the crush washer between the block and the fitting
The pic is dark but you can see the fitting that come with the GEM, it also has the correct fitting for the cyl head connection.
AC filter block:
less expensive
thre color choices - polished, red, blue (I know color is not important but still a difference)
four output oil feed lines
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Filter side of the AC: oil is drawn from the un-filtered outer sections (arrow)
Block side of the AC
Mounting of AC: this is the first version that GEM released, it will work with a oem oil cooler equipped block or a block w/o a cooler. Note that the new GEM fitting looks similar to this but still uses a crush washer.
Mounting of AC: here you can see the filter side of the fitting, note there is no crush washer between the block and the fitting
The pic is dark but you can see the ports on the AC block, this one came with three plugs and no other fittings.
I'm only posting these so people considering an oil filter block can see some closer pics of these two options. I'm not going to debate much over which is better, I'll simply post what I see.
Modified by SLPR at 4:57 AM 5/1/2003
"I have had both, I would use either one in any of my engine builds. **I will say that I'm using the GEM block right now**
Anyways here is a quick and dirty comparision, I promise to post up some photos to help with the visuals.GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black (I know color is not important but still a difference)
two output oil feed lines
output oil lines are filtered oil
includes one 6AN fitting
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Filter side of the GEM: oil is drawn from the filtered center pathway (arrow)
Block side of the GEM: oil pathways to the Vtec and turbo feed are shown (arrows) also note the double ridge Viton seal
Mounting of GEM: this is the first version that GEM released, it does not work with a oem oil cooler equipped block. They do have a new version that will work with both cooler and non-cooler blocks. I will also note that the pictured style requires removal of the oil filter nipple in your engine block.
Mounting of GEM: here you can see the filter side of the fitting, note the crush washer between the block and the fitting
The pic is dark but you can see the fitting that come with the GEM, it also has the correct fitting for the cyl head connection.
AC filter block:
less expensive
thre color choices - polished, red, blue (I know color is not important but still a difference)
four output oil feed lines
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Filter side of the AC: oil is drawn from the un-filtered outer sections (arrow)
Block side of the AC
Mounting of AC: this is the first version that GEM released, it will work with a oem oil cooler equipped block or a block w/o a cooler. Note that the new GEM fitting looks similar to this but still uses a crush washer.
Mounting of AC: here you can see the filter side of the fitting, note there is no crush washer between the block and the fitting
The pic is dark but you can see the ports on the AC block, this one came with three plugs and no other fittings.
I'm only posting these so people considering an oil filter block can see some closer pics of these two options. I'm not going to debate much over which is better, I'll simply post what I see.
Modified by SLPR at 4:57 AM 5/1/2003
04-30-2003, 08:30 AM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (SLPR)
O.K. lets compare:
AC filter block:
less expensive
three color choices - polished, red, blue ( who cares you never see it! )
four output oil feed lines ( all 1/8 NPT )
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Made in Taiwan
GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black
two output oil feed lines ( one 1/8 NPT and one -8AN O-ring ports with multiple option fittings )
output oil lines use FILTERED oil
includes one 6AN fitting and the correct pitch 6AN fitting for the head for VTEC conversion plus you can choose from many other fittings
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
MADE IN USA
Adds 100 H.P.
O.K., well the last fact of the Golden Eagle one may be a little exaggerated, but seriously, we take pride in the quality and craftsmanship of our work. More expensive, GE by a little. Application usability, GE for sure due to the fact that you can use it for VTEC conversion and because it uses FILTERED oil for it's supply. Gets more chicks, the GE one definately, at least that is what we have been told......
By the way, we love the people over at AC. They are some of the nicest people in this industry.
AC filter block:
less expensive
three color choices - polished, red, blue ( who cares you never see it! )
four output oil feed lines ( all 1/8 NPT )
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Made in Taiwan
GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black
two output oil feed lines ( one 1/8 NPT and one -8AN O-ring ports with multiple option fittings )
output oil lines use FILTERED oil
includes one 6AN fitting and the correct pitch 6AN fitting for the head for VTEC conversion plus you can choose from many other fittings
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
MADE IN USA
Adds 100 H.P.
O.K., well the last fact of the Golden Eagle one may be a little exaggerated, but seriously, we take pride in the quality and craftsmanship of our work. More expensive, GE by a little. Application usability, GE for sure due to the fact that you can use it for VTEC conversion and because it uses FILTERED oil for it's supply. Gets more chicks, the GE one definately, at least that is what we have been told......
By the way, we love the people over at AC. They are some of the nicest people in this industry.
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04-30-2003, 08:48 AM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (GoldenEagleMfg.com)
does anybody have any experience with the Earls oil filter block and how it compares to the GE or AC blocks?
04-30-2003, 09:19 AM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (Hayasa15)
another 100HP is always a good thing too.
I forgot to add that the GEM comes in nicer packaging too. (blister pack -vs- laminated card pack)
Modified by SLPR at 4:40 AM 5/1/2003
I forgot to add that the GEM comes in nicer packaging too. (blister pack -vs- laminated card pack)
Modified by SLPR at 4:40 AM 5/1/2003
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (GoldenEagleMfg.com)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoldenEagleMfg.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">O.K. lets compare:
AC filter block:
less expensive
three color choices - polished, red, blue ( who cares you never see it! )
four output oil feed lines ( all 1/8 NPT )
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Made in Taiwan
GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black
two output oil feed lines ( one 1/8 NPT and one -8AN O-ring ports with multiple option fittings )
output oil lines use FILTERED oil
includes one 6AN fitting and the correct pitch 6AN fitting for the head for VTEC conversion plus you can choose from many other fittings
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
MADE IN USA
Adds 100 H.P.
O.K., well the last fact of the Golden Eagle one may be a little exaggerated, but seriously, we take pride in the quality and craftsmanship of our work. More expensive, GE by a little. Application usability, GE for sure due to the fact that you can use it for VTEC conversion and because it uses FILTERED oil for it's supply. Gets more chicks, the GE one definately, at least that is what we have been told......
By the way, we love the people over at AC. They are some of the nicest people in this industry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL...That's pretty funny sh-t. I'll stick with GE all the way.
AC filter block:
less expensive
three color choices - polished, red, blue ( who cares you never see it! )
four output oil feed lines ( all 1/8 NPT )
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Made in Taiwan
GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black
two output oil feed lines ( one 1/8 NPT and one -8AN O-ring ports with multiple option fittings )
output oil lines use FILTERED oil
includes one 6AN fitting and the correct pitch 6AN fitting for the head for VTEC conversion plus you can choose from many other fittings
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
MADE IN USA
Adds 100 H.P.
O.K., well the last fact of the Golden Eagle one may be a little exaggerated, but seriously, we take pride in the quality and craftsmanship of our work. More expensive, GE by a little. Application usability, GE for sure due to the fact that you can use it for VTEC conversion and because it uses FILTERED oil for it's supply. Gets more chicks, the GE one definately, at least that is what we have been told......
By the way, we love the people over at AC. They are some of the nicest people in this industry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL...That's pretty funny sh-t. I'll stick with GE all the way.
04-30-2003, 10:09 AM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (boostedb20vtec)
I thought they both have the same concept. Used oil comes from the block through the center hole, gets filtered through the filter, then returns through the outer openings.
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (boostedb20vtec)
GEM all the way. I'll take it based on the fact that it is not manufactured in Taiwan, and that it uses filtered oil supply for my turbo. Who CARES about the color? Once the engine is in, you won't be able to see it (unless or until you have a mirror set up behind your motor).
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04-30-2003, 10:22 AM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (dualknuttz1)
Actually, the filtered oil leaves the oil filter through the nipple. The outer ring oil has not passed through the filter yet.
Simple...the oem EOP is in the filtered oil gallery. If you shine a bore light down the oil filter nipple....you will see light at the EOP bung...hence filtered supply oil.
Simple...the oem EOP is in the filtered oil gallery. If you shine a bore light down the oil filter nipple....you will see light at the EOP bung...hence filtered supply oil.
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (MotorMatrix.com)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMatrix.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">guess i was wrong on the price. oops!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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04-30-2003, 04:53 PM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (GoldenEagleMfg.com)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoldenEagleMfg.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">O.K. lets compare:
AC filter block:
less expensive
three color choices - polished, red, blue ( who cares you never see it! )
four output oil feed lines ( all 1/8 NPT )
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Made in Taiwan
GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black
two output oil feed lines ( one 1/8 NPT and one -8AN O-ring ports with multiple option fittings )
output oil lines use FILTERED oil
includes one 6AN fitting and the correct pitch 6AN fitting for the head for VTEC conversion plus you can choose from many other fittings
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
MADE IN USA
Adds 100 H.P.
O.K., well the last fact of the Golden Eagle one may be a little exaggerated, but seriously, we take pride in the quality and craftsmanship of our work. More expensive, GE by a little. Application usability, GE for sure due to the fact that you can use it for VTEC conversion and because it uses FILTERED oil for it's supply. Gets more chicks, the GE one definately, at least that is what we have been told......
By the way, we love the people over at AC. They are some of the nicest people in this industry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
100 HP thats great haha
But we now include 1/8 npt plug if people need and we reduced our price on the GE units to $99 shipped now
AC filter block:
less expensive
three color choices - polished, red, blue ( who cares you never see it! )
four output oil feed lines ( all 1/8 NPT )
output oil lines are non-filtered oil
includes four 1/8 BSPT allen plugs
works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
Made in Taiwan
GEM filter block:
more expensive
one color choice - black
two output oil feed lines ( one 1/8 NPT and one -8AN O-ring ports with multiple option fittings )
output oil lines use FILTERED oil
includes one 6AN fitting and the correct pitch 6AN fitting for the head for VTEC conversion plus you can choose from many other fittings
now works with both oil cooler blocks and non-oil cooler blocks
Viton o-ring seal
MADE IN USA
Adds 100 H.P.
O.K., well the last fact of the Golden Eagle one may be a little exaggerated, but seriously, we take pride in the quality and craftsmanship of our work. More expensive, GE by a little. Application usability, GE for sure due to the fact that you can use it for VTEC conversion and because it uses FILTERED oil for it's supply. Gets more chicks, the GE one definately, at least that is what we have been told......
By the way, we love the people over at AC. They are some of the nicest people in this industry. </TD></TR></TABLE>
100 HP thats great haha
But we now include 1/8 npt plug if people need and we reduced our price on the GE units to $99 shipped now
04-30-2003, 05:15 PM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (GoldenEagleMfg.com)
How important is it to run filtered oil for the turbo feed line? I would think that if the oil is changed on a regular basis there shouldn't be a problem.
Any opinions on this?
Any opinions on this?
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (creechrr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by creechrr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How important is it to run filtered oil for the turbo feed line? I would think that if the oil is changed on a regular basis there shouldn't be a problem.
Any opinions on this?
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I think in general you are correct, the entire system is a closed system with the oil continually being filtered.
Also, take this into consideration-
The Oil pump, which receives "unfiltered" oil directly from the pan has a rotor to rotor minimum clearance spec of .0008 and Rotor to case minimum spec of .0012, extremely precise and close tolerances, comparable even to the engine main and rod bearing specs and yet the oil pump shows minimal wear even after a 10000 miles...
Some engine designs even feed the main and rod bearings directly from the oil pump and only filter the oil going to the camshaft and head area...
So the effects are probably minimal at best...
Alyssa Kay
Any opinions on this?
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I think in general you are correct, the entire system is a closed system with the oil continually being filtered.
Also, take this into consideration-
The Oil pump, which receives "unfiltered" oil directly from the pan has a rotor to rotor minimum clearance spec of .0008 and Rotor to case minimum spec of .0012, extremely precise and close tolerances, comparable even to the engine main and rod bearing specs and yet the oil pump shows minimal wear even after a 10000 miles...
Some engine designs even feed the main and rod bearings directly from the oil pump and only filter the oil going to the camshaft and head area...
So the effects are probably minimal at best...
Alyssa Kay
04-30-2003, 06:03 PM
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (Suprdave)
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Re: AC autotechnic VS. Golden Eagle Mfg oil filter block (b18bturbo)
Hey, That's my kind of girl 
Viren, I shipped your ish today...I can get yu a track # if you need.
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Viren, I shipped your ish today...I can get yu a track # if you need.
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