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Old 12-27-2002, 01:12 PM
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Default 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4?

Sounds like a newb question...prob is...but why is this turbo so hot all of a sudden?
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (BoOsTeD_eK)

I am assuming that you are reffering to the T3/60-1 and the T3/T04E.

The 60-1 compressor can flow 60 lb/min worth of air while the largest T04E compreessor can flow 53 lb/min. More air equals more power. Although the 60-1 can flow more air, other variables will determine how effcient it is. More displacement, porting and polishing, larger valves, equal length manifold will all aid in the amount of air a motor can consume. Most people only see the actual amount of air that teh 60-1 compressor can flow, but what they do not realize is that it is far less efficent as a T04E .60 A/R 60 trim compressor. A 60-1 can reach lower 70% range in efficiency while the T04E .60 A/R 60 trim can get up into the 77%-78% efficiency range. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better!

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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (TurbochargedSER)

What would be a great t3/to4e turbo to compare to the t3 60-1? Somethimg around the same size?

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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (TurbochargedSER)

Actually according to my compressor maps the 60-1 flows 65 lbs/min and the largest to4e wheel 60 trim only flows 50 lbs/min. What maps do u have?
I am looking at the turbonetics and the innovative maps.
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (DRAGLS)

Actually according to my compressor maps the 60-1 flows 65 lbs/min and the largest to4e wheel 60 trim only flows 50 lbs/min. What maps do u have?
I am looking at the turbonetics and the innovative maps.
Right off the product bulletin that Garrett sends to all of their dealers.
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (DRAGLS)

i am looking at the same product bulletins and louis is 100% correct

the 60 trim to4e flows 53lbs/min
the 57 trim to4e flows 50lbs/min

the 60-1 wheel t04s flows 60lbs/min
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (C-man)

This is exactly what i have noticed in the last few months. Heck, I bought the 60-1 in the summer because I thought the compressor maps looked good for my application. I am now going with the 60 trim compressor for my 2.0 gsr block due to the compressor maps being much better suited to the engine.
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (boosted hybrid)

so which specs in this turbo would be suited for 2.0 liter fully built street engine? Or is this turbo meant for drag apps?
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (BoOsTeD_eK)

Im gonna get my from jotech but its gonna be a t4 60-1.He told me its perfect for my setup.I never just buy somthing withought knowing if it will work well.You should always question especially when buying a turbo,unless you know for sure.
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (TurbochargedSER)

Most people only see the actual amount of air that teh 60-1 compressor can flow, but what they do not realize is that it is far less efficent as a T04E .60 A/R 60 trim compressor. A 60-1 can reach lower 70% range in efficiency while the T04E .60 A/R 60 trim can get up into the 77%-78% efficiency range. Bigger doesn't necessarily mean better!
You are so right louis! I think some people dont realize this. It may flow more, but at a lower efficency even tho 7-8% isnt that much of a difference. But every bit helps.

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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (DRAGLS)

did you know that no one has the real maps for the 60-1!!! we talked to the garret engineers for awhile and actually the man behind the 60-1 said that they never released the maps for this turbo. strange huh
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Default Re: 60-1 What is it? How does it compare to a t3/t4? (ffgeon)

Really!!? What the hell have i been looking at on the turbonetics site? Is that their own 60-1 chart that made up or what? Now i am very confused if i want to go with the 60 trim compressor if the 60-1 could possibly be a better fit towards my engine...
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