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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Im looking for whp numbers, spool characteristics, 1/4 mile times ne info u got would help thanks
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crowder13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im looking for whp numbers, spool characteristics, 1/4 mile times ne info u got would help thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

WHP:
- .82A/R with stage 5 wheel
- 424 on 16psi @7000rpm. Had to let out early due to fueling problem.
- Will have new numbers this Saturday the 8th around noonish because of a new exhaust setup. Perhaps C16 numbers if time allows.

Spool:
- Positive pressure around 3200rpm
- 5-8psi around 4000-4500rpm
- 16psi around 4700-5000rpm

Times:
- 13.4@118 on BFG KDW2's. Keep in mind that is with LS gears, street tires, and a driver who needs improvement at the strip. By LS gears, I mean I drop out of vtec when shifting into 3rd if that helps to put it in perspective.


Modified by Dunc at 11:16 PM 9/4/2007
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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To get different varying results, also check with those that use a P-trim wheel or S-Cover and those with smaller compressor covers and smaller turbine wheels. 60-1 is simply a compressor wheel design, they behave differently with different exhaust wheel /Housing and compressor housing combinations.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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415whp@17.2 psi at 8400 rpms. car made 400whp at 7000rpms and held between 400 and 420 to 8700

starts building boost in the high 3000 range, and i hit 17 right at 5k rpms.

t3 60-1 with S housing and t31 .63ar turbine, 84mm lsvtec.


best time so far is 12.4 at 119 but that was when i was only making about 315whp. now i need to go back on slicks
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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thanks my setup is

84mm ls block ge sleeves
wiseco's
ge rods
polished crank

b16 head
rmm valves springs and retainers
supertech valves
type r cams
blox intake manifold
1000cc's

turbo setup
log manifold
60-1 dont know what type of compressor housing .82 a/r hotside
2.5 charge piping
3 in downpipe feeding into 3 inch kteller exhaust

i figured i could make 500whp and run 130 mph through the 1/4
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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ls tranny with obx
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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500 whp gets close to maxxing the turbo out on that setup. i think you can get like 520 or maybe 530 tops out of it. a different exhaust manifold might help as well
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 04:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">500 whp gets close to maxxing the turbo out on that setup. i think you can get like 520 or maybe 530 tops out of it. a different exhaust manifold might help as well</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 60-1 is rated at 520hp...and the general consensus is that they rate their turbos conservatively. The log manifold could definitely be improved, but the type r cams will help a lot. I would say you could get 520, but anything more is just an added bonus to be happy with.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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Full Race manifold
Tial wastegate and BOV
Turbonetics ball bearing t3/60-1 with .77ar exhaust
Yonaka 26x12x4 Intercooler
Skunk2 Intake
10.1 compression
LS VTEC
GSR Cams
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Eagle Rods
Manley Vale Springs
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Hondata S200
AEM Fuel Rail
880cc Injectors
255 Walbro Fuel Pump

had a boost creep problem so we had to cut the tuning short. Found out later the air fitting feeding the wastegate was partially blocked inside. This was only the sixth pull, stopping at 7500rpm creeping to 18psi......

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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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i was thinking about getting a garret t3\60-1 .70ar compresser with .82ar stage 3 wheel....this will be goin on a built lsvtec with a ramhorn and 3'' dp with exaust...would this turbo be good for 4-500whp?
anyone eles have this same turbo? any info would be great
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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did 401whp on pump gas and 1 bar with a T3/60-1 with .63 hot side, stage 3 wheel and S comp cover. on 23psi race gas street tune the times are in my sig. that is all on the old 81mm set up. new numbers this week.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo EF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking about getting a garret t3\60-1 .70ar compresser with .82ar stage 3 wheel....this will be goin on a built lsvtec with a ramhorn and 3'' dp with exaust...would this turbo be good for 4-500whp?
anyone eles have this same turbo? any info would be great </TD></TR></TABLE>

This turbo is used all the time, though the turbine wheel is very stressed and mismatched to go 480-500whp. The turbine wheel seriously limits that power. This makes you have to run more boost, which means more IATs with that big compressor housing. I don't recommend that wheel combination.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WHP:
- .82A/R with stage 5 wheel
- 424 on 16psi @7000rpm. Had to let out early due to fueling problem.
- Will have new numbers this Saturday the 8th around noonish because of a new exhaust setup. Perhaps C16 numbers if time allows.

Spool:
- Positive pressure around 3200rpm
- 5-8psi around 4000-4500rpm
- 16psi around 4700-5000rpm


Modified by Dunc at 11:16 PM 9/4/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dunc has the right idea!!

He is making good hp at lower boost levels then most users do with the 60-1/ T31 turbine wheel. The 60-1 really needs a bigger turbine wheel. Whether it be a stage V or a P trim turbine wheel. The shaft speeds are better matched between the 60-1 and the Stage 5 or P trim.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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were is a good spot to buy a 60-1 with the stage 5 wheel?..all i can find is the stage 3 wheel
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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I purchased mine from Full-Race
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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I purchased mine from Full-Race </TD></TR></TABLE>

We have ours as well.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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would anyone happen to know of a website that has good descriptions of the various types of wheels and trims ex.( stage 5 / p trim / stage 3 )?? yes im a noob at understanding most of this turbo leango.. ive read up on the garrett site but not enough detailed info, i to have a 60-1 and have been reading all these 60-1 threads lately, ive also searched but have not had good luck finding any useful info..
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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wish i got the stage 5 wheel i think mine has a stage 3 wheel coming in it. thanks for the info. hoping my clutch holds up i got the honda ems clutch with upgraded pressure i guess we will see here in about 2-3 weeks when we head to the dyno
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Precision also has a 60-1 turbo too, it is the SC60 with choice of a Stage 3, Stage 5 or P trim T4 wheel


Back in 2001-2002 I had an 84mm B16A with a Maximum Performance tubular manifold an a Turbonetics T3/60-1 with a Stage 5 wheel and .82 A/R turbine housing, it made 500whp 25psi and 330 ft-lb torque I think full boost was like 5500 rpm, I gotta look up the old thread I made

Edit:Found this very old thread

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=311514
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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You can make over 600 with the right setup. I did it 5 yrs ago. 10.0s in a track crx. Good luck.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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I have a sc34 turbo im send to (Blaast Performance) to upgrade to 60-1 this is want they told me it has a 4" inlet with an antisurge system. it has 0.70 a/r. we can supply the matching 4"-3" coupler if you want.
IT would spool up almost the same as your current turbo because the spool up is mostly dictated by the turbine side, which remains the same.
if your t04e housing is a 57 or 60 trim, we can overbore yours if you want so it would remain 100% the same externally. Normally we do overbore a t04e housing to fit the 60-1 wheel in it.
since the SC34 is a t04e, then we will change your compressor wheel and housing. The 60-1 wheel will fit your backplate so yes, it will remain a t04e. but a custom t04e with a wheel larger than garrett themselves ever used in there
Yes we also offer the porting service for the turbine housing, it can free up to 50 HP and improves spool up as well. it costs 60$.
let me know if you have any further question.


please tell me what you all think&gt;&gt;&gt; i'll post a pic of the turbo.






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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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will .63ar turbine have a good spoolup time in a b16a?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 03:49 AM
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:06 AM
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b16a
eagle rods
srp pistons
arp head studs
crower spings n retainers
stock sleaves
stock head
stock valves
stock b16a cams

60-1 turbo STG 3 turbine wheel
0.63 a/r turbine housing
tial 38mm gate

motec m400 ecu
m&w 4 channel cdi

tuned on c16 at 32psi boost

runs 9.93@147mph in a crx without wheelie bars. (840kgs)

hits 32psi at 6800rpm
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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hey icey theres a y up in canada right now that has my compressor housing but yeah i know about the porting from srtforums those guys are getting an extra 25 whp outta there tiny *** turbos, but mine was either a 54 trim or 57 trim compressor housing and is getting bored out and all that good stuff already. somone needs to jump on that deal improves spool time too. and crx 32 psi is over kill that turbo probly isnt gonna stay together long but damn nice times
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