I was lookin at the site of this local shop and they posted the dyno sheet for the integra 453.7hp and 295.9ftlb torque.. http://www.cybernationmotorsports.com



[Modified by Racing Hartless, 6:51 AM 2/21/2002]

 

interesting.. that is a mustang dyno, i wonder what it would do on a dynojet..

I wish they would list the mods or some pictures or something..


[Modified by DIRep972, 7:14 AM 2/21/2002]

 

If you look in the Integra gallery on the site, it is the yellow one.

 

does anyone else see what i see?

clue-it has to do with oil


[Modified by DIRep972, 6:57 AM 2/21/2002]

 

Does the site have a list of whats done to the car? I didn't see any specs on it.

 

Is he oiling the turbo only in vtec? LOL

It's what I don't see that is bugging me.

 

ding ding ding..

humm stock ECU, deltagate, AND oiling the turbo in vtec only.. this guy must not have gotten any advise from honda-tech..


but hes still running mid 11's! downloaded the videos.. good stuff


[Modified by DIRep972, 7:45 AM 2/21/2002]

 

What kind of manifold is that? Is it just a coated Drag manifold?

 

blah...my d16y7 with a z6 head internally stock makes more power then that....543hp and 467 ft/pounds torque. 85 octane pump gas daily driving 56 miles a day to work and back.

*liam rolls his eyes*



liam


[Modified by liam821, 12:24 AM 2/21/2002]

 

wow 453hp with a drag kit, well from what I see. With a coated drag manifold and turbine housing, deltagate, in-line fuel pump(cant see what kind). Key to this setup is tuning. Standalone(no stock map sensor), aftermarket fuel rail, ss lines, aeromotive fuel regulator

Dunno what happened with the turbo oil feed though.

 

well, i do my oil feed for the turbo from that spot also. I've been running it like that for four years without a problem. if you check in the helms, that spot recieves constant pressure regardless if its in vtec or not. think about it... your supposed to use that spot to check the oil pressure for the vtec system. On a stock ecu vtec only activates when your moving, so according to your theory if I was only getting oil to my turbo during vtec, then there should be no pressure coming from that spot. That doesn't make any sense now does it... because if there wasn't any oil pressure coming from there, then why would it be a factory approved spot to check for oil pressure?

in fact, i think this is a superior spot to do the oil feed because it is under less pressure in comparion to where everyone else does it which is the dummy light. Technically speaking, that spot's oil pressure is too high for the oil seals in the turbo. Those seals from my understanding are not supposed to see an excess of 90-100 psi.

 

not to mention tapping the oil pressure on the back on the engine is a pain in the ***...

liam

 

newbie question dont flame me pleeeeeease!!!!
if you tap the oil ther then you dont have to run it out of the pan right?

 

OK I'll put on the flame-retardant suit for this one.

There are two oil lines on a turbo - one line feeds oil TO the turbo, the other line drains oil out of the turbo. The one we're talking about is the feed line, either from the tap by the VTEC solenoid as in this example, or usually from the back of the engine block where the oil pressure sensor is. The DRAIN line runs from the bottom side of the turbo into the oil pan. No matter what! The oil coming out of the turbo is not under pressure, so it has to drain downhill - right into the oil pan, where it can be pumped back up again.

Hope that helped.

 

As long as that is on the supply side of the vtec solenoid then you are correct there will always be pressure there.
However your reasoning on the pressure levels doesn't make sense.
the pressure should be the same at all points in the oil supply system.
As a side note I have my oil pressure guage and vtec oil supply to the head tapped on the back of the motor where the dummy light was, and I have never seen over 95 psi and that is rare it usually stays around 75psi while over 3k rpm.

 

Sounds right. I guess I never looked into it much since I dont have vtec
Do the b18b heads have anywhere to tap to the oil supply?
Also, how much psi are you suppose to supply the the turbo anyways?

Thanks to Mike K. Here's some specs on on honda pumps

Here's the numbers(all rated at 6,000rpm)
B16A oil pump 53qpm
B17A oil pump 54qpm
B18C oil pump 75qpm
B18B oil pump 53qpm

B16A water pump 140qpm
B17A water pump 140qpm
B18C water pump 148qpm
B18B water pump 148qpm

 

Those charts are from a dynojet.

 

lol thanks for putting on the flame reatardent suit on to handle my question!
Well your answer certainly does make sense, i dont know to much about turbos yet obviously, but i want to learn allot more before i drop my coin on a turbo. But any ways thanks for clearing things up for me i appreciate it!!

 

Umm...anyone else notice that he has no fans on the rad?

Tom

 

I believe there is a slim fan on the engine side...

 

ahhh, hidden from that camera angle...

whew, i feel better now.

Tom

 

when i first had my oil pressure guage it was hooked up to there...if i remember corectly...and it read NO oil pressure until vtec hit, and then BAM it was up around 100psi. unless i am thinking of another spot near there, i don't see how that setup works...unless it is another port on the supply side of he vtec system...

 

I have watched his car go form 14s,13s, to damn this thing needs a cage. He now has the exhaust exiting thru front bumper. We don't do emissions checks anymore in Florida.

 

One more thing I noticed.... Looks like he jsut cut the breather off or something... Maybe there's a catch can hidden somewhere? It sure looks like that line just stops right over the intake manifold...

 

Is this Sherbazs' car?? It looks like it and only one I know of in FL in yellow pushing that power. But it really doesn't look like it..could be wrong.


Nick