400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo
#1
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: tampa, fl, usa
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo
here is the motor set up
B20 GE 84mm block
9:1 JE pistons
Eagle rods
stock gsr head and cams
im looking to make 400whp on this motor set-up. after spending way more than i thought i did, i no longer get to buy the baller turbo parts i wanted. im forced to go with a log manifold from spoolin performance . what till spool be like with a sc61 turbo attached to it? what size intercooler piping should i use? is it possible to make the 400 whp goal i have? any helpful input would be appreciated.
im not looking for the be patient and buy a better manifold answer. ive been into this build for quite some time now and im almost out of funds. if i can make this hp goal ive set for myself with a log mani than thats what its going to be
B20 GE 84mm block
9:1 JE pistons
Eagle rods
stock gsr head and cams
im looking to make 400whp on this motor set-up. after spending way more than i thought i did, i no longer get to buy the baller turbo parts i wanted. im forced to go with a log manifold from spoolin performance . what till spool be like with a sc61 turbo attached to it? what size intercooler piping should i use? is it possible to make the 400 whp goal i have? any helpful input would be appreciated.
im not looking for the be patient and buy a better manifold answer. ive been into this build for quite some time now and im almost out of funds. if i can make this hp goal ive set for myself with a log mani than thats what its going to be
#2
Honda-Tech Member
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (ORANGE EF)
im sure you can reach your goal. log manifolds are just less efficient than equal length, so just turn the boost up until you reach your goal. looks like you have a bottom end ready to handle it.
just for example, mat keller was making something like 600whp on a t4 inlinepro cast mani
just for example, mat keller was making something like 600whp on a t4 inlinepro cast mani
#4
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kent Island, MD, USA
Posts: 429
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (mra4886)
i have an sc61 on the t3 inline pro manifold and see 18psi by around 4500~5000. And i know that i am definetly around the 400~420whp mark so i think that you should definetly be able to reach your goals with that turbo and manifold.
Also, my set-up as far as the motor is the exact same as yours.
Also, my set-up as far as the motor is the exact same as yours.
#5
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (ORANGE EF)
you can reach your goal , but like the other poster said it wont be *** efficent.
you should definitly look into getting a equal length down the road to improve efficency and spool times
you should definitly look into getting a equal length down the road to improve efficency and spool times
#6
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: GTA Ontario.
Posts: 3,540
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (b18sihatch)
the log will work fine.. for IC piping use 2.5", you can use normal carbon steel if you want just heavier, dosent have to be alumn.
#7
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: tampa, fl, usa
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (b18sihatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18sihatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can reach your goal , but like the other poster said it wont be *** efficent.
you should definitly look into getting a equal length down the road to improve efficency and spool times </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i plan on getting a equal length mani eventually but like i said this build is takeing too long and im getting impatient. i had plans for a ballerific build but im only looking for 400whp and a 10sec timeslip in my gutted EF. but if a log will work for now then a log it is
you should definitly look into getting a equal length down the road to improve efficency and spool times </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i plan on getting a equal length mani eventually but like i said this build is takeing too long and im getting impatient. i had plans for a ballerific build but im only looking for 400whp and a 10sec timeslip in my gutted EF. but if a log will work for now then a log it is
Trending Topics
#8
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Longmont, CO, usa
Posts: 953
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (b18sihatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18sihatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can reach your goal , but like the other poster said it wont be *** efficent.
you should definitly look into getting a equal length down the road to improve efficency and spool times </TD></TR></TABLE>
it will not be *** efficient (it will take more boost) but you should actually see slightly better spool times with the log.
i made 500hp with an sc61 on a inline t3 manifold @25psi last year.
you should definitly look into getting a equal length down the road to improve efficency and spool times </TD></TR></TABLE>
it will not be *** efficient (it will take more boost) but you should actually see slightly better spool times with the log.
i made 500hp with an sc61 on a inline t3 manifold @25psi last year.
#9
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (ndogg)
**** matt keller's civic is running 9's with a log style manifold
If any one from inlinepro does'nt what this pic posted, just say so and I'll take it off.
If any one from inlinepro does'nt what this pic posted, just say so and I'll take it off.
#10
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (Mugencrxsir1)
Do it right the first time and get a ramhorn, you will probably swapped out for one later on anyway. You dont have to go out and but a full-race manfiold, there is plenty good quality one for about 600.
I currently have a log on mine and wished i had gone with a ramhorn in the beginning, which i have to buy now
Edit, the ramhorn will also make better power in the mid-top end also
I currently have a log on mine and wished i had gone with a ramhorn in the beginning, which i have to buy now
Edit, the ramhorn will also make better power in the mid-top end also
#11
Honda-Tech Member
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (ORANGE EF)
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1788293
Check that out, our log manifold on a stock gsr block made 300hp ( ok 296 ) with a t3/to4e 57 trim turbo at 7psi. I have no doubt in my mind that 400hp is achievable with a log manifold.
Check that out, our log manifold on a stock gsr block made 300hp ( ok 296 ) with a t3/to4e 57 trim turbo at 7psi. I have no doubt in my mind that 400hp is achievable with a log manifold.
#13
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (aaronISthrowed)
well IMO i get the feeling that the OP is worried about spool times, yes it can be done with log but equal will be more efficent in spool times. but if it works it works so go with it.
unless you are real worried it might make your car less efficent as it could be
unless you are real worried it might make your car less efficent as it could be
#15
Honda-Tech Member
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (ORANGE EF)
Whats the a/r and trim of that turbo.
The t3/t4 turbo we had, was a 57 trim and it kicked in about 4,000 rpms
The t3/t4 turbo we had, was a 57 trim and it kicked in about 4,000 rpms
#16
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey, man... Log style mani's work great.. My Sc61 2.0L ls/vtec made like 315 at 10psi.. 400whp and 15psi on pump gas. 22psi it made 548whp.. those turbo's really start to shine after 14-15psi...
-chad-
-chad-
#17
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Pflugerville, Tejas
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
you guys keep comparing apples to oranges. the inline pro is not near as inefficient as a log mani. The inline pro, revhard, drag, etc are cast tubular manifolds. The log manifold...is well...a log manifold. The inline pro piece is actually very efficient for its simplistic design. That is because the runners are closer to equal length than the others mentioned above. But to answer the original question, you should not have to much of a problem making 400 plus with the right tune.....hopefully you saved a bit of the build up loot for that.
#18
Honda-Tech Member
Re: (allstokhonda)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allstokhonda »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey, man... Log style mani's work great.. My Sc61 2.0L ls/vtec made like 315 at 10psi.. 400whp and 15psi on pump gas. 22psi it made 548whp.. those turbo's really start to shine after 14-15psi...
-chad-</TD></TR></TABLE>
A/R's of .48 or .63. SC61 comes with the GT wheel with a 2.795" inducer and 2.437" exducer (76 trim).
Is that the specs of it ? I would assume the turbo fully spools around 5 to 6rpms
-chad-</TD></TR></TABLE>
A/R's of .48 or .63. SC61 comes with the GT wheel with a 2.795" inducer and 2.437" exducer (76 trim).
Is that the specs of it ? I would assume the turbo fully spools around 5 to 6rpms
#19
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 786
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (dpetro1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpetro1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just for example, mat keller was making something like 600whp on a t4 inlinepro cast mani </TD></TR></TABLE>
His new car made 800++++ WHP on an inlinepro log. Might even be over 900 WHP.
His new car made 800++++ WHP on an inlinepro log. Might even be over 900 WHP.
#20
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, Tx, US
Posts: 2,428
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (tokes1320)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tokes1320 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
His new car made 800++++ WHP on an inlinepro log. Might even be over 900 WHP.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn thats good
His new car made 800++++ WHP on an inlinepro log. Might even be over 900 WHP.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn thats good
#21
Honda-Tech Member
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (Mugencrxsir1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugencrxsir1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** matt keller's civic is running 9's with a log style manifold
If any one from inlinepro does'nt what this pic posted, just say so and I'll take it off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thier 'log-style' is completely different than the ones you buy fab'd up for $275.
If any one from inlinepro does'nt what this pic posted, just say so and I'll take it off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thier 'log-style' is completely different than the ones you buy fab'd up for $275.
#22
Honda-Tech Member
Re: 400 whp question log mani and sc61 turbo (PrecisionH23a)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thier 'log-style' is completely different than the ones you buy fab'd up for $275.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not arguing here, I totally agree, but that car also is in a class of its own and should not be really even brought up in this thread.
Thier 'log-style' is completely different than the ones you buy fab'd up for $275.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not arguing here, I totally agree, but that car also is in a class of its own and should not be really even brought up in this thread.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TeamCracka
Forced Induction
6
02-16-2004 07:30 AM