2 step....or 3 step
06-10-2006, 09:39 PM
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2 step....or 3 step
ok i want a 2 step or 3 step on my new setup.. i know some programs come with 2 step but is it any good. should i go with msd? opinions on 2 step and 3 step please!
06-10-2006, 09:53 PM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (SPNFEDEH)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPNFEDEH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 2 step on my hondata</TD></TR></TABLE>
i read its not as good as msd though..
i read its not as good as msd though..
06-10-2006, 09:59 PM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (mike93boost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i read its not as good as msd though..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Could you please explain?
i read its not as good as msd though..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Could you please explain?
06-10-2006, 10:00 PM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (roydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could you please explain?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i did alot of seasrching on here and read a bunch about it. have to find the links.
but what all else besides hondata has a 2 step? and how does it work. ive read some people complained because they cant doa good burnout with the 2step...but why is that? cant they disable it.. i dont know exactly how it all works, thats what im wanting to know.
i did alot of seasrching on here and read a bunch about it. have to find the links.
but what all else besides hondata has a 2 step? and how does it work. ive read some people complained because they cant doa good burnout with the 2step...but why is that? cant they disable it.. i dont know exactly how it all works, thats what im wanting to know.
06-11-2006, 01:03 AM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (jdm'dc2sc61)
crome has a 2 step, but when ever u want to change the settings u have to use a laptop, hondata u use a button, and u can set it any time u want
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (SPNFEDEH)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPNFEDEH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">crome has a 2 step, but when ever u want to change the settings u have to use a laptop, hondata u use a button, and u can set it any time u want</TD></TR></TABLE>
and what do you mean? when you want to enable and disable it, you have to use a laptop?
should i just get a msd 6AL and 2 step moduel?
and what do you mean? when you want to enable and disable it, you have to use a laptop?
should i just get a msd 6AL and 2 step moduel?
06-11-2006, 10:24 AM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (mike93boost)
hondata does fuel cut like a stock ecu would do.
hondata is also a switch like msd. u can wire it up to the clutch switch and everytime you depress the clutch fully it locks into the rev-limit or have a button to u can activate the limiter.
on my car, it's on the cruise control button.
hondata is also a switch like msd. u can wire it up to the clutch switch and everytime you depress the clutch fully it locks into the rev-limit or have a button to u can activate the limiter.
on my car, it's on the cruise control button.
06-11-2006, 10:30 AM
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with neptune the 2 step is user adjustable.. the preset rpm is whatever you set it at. mine is set at 3500 or you can bring the rpms up slowly to a certain rpm then stomp on it to hit WOT and it will 2 step there.
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (traction issuez)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by traction issuez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hondata does fuel cut like a stock ecu would do.
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i thought s200 did that but the s300 was different?
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i thought s200 did that but the s300 was different?
06-11-2006, 01:08 PM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (mike93boost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i did alot of seasrching on here and read a bunch about it. have to find the links.
but what all else besides hondata has a 2 step? and how does it work. ive read some people complained because they cant doa good burnout with the 2step...but why is that? cant they disable it.. i dont know exactly how it all works, thats what im wanting to know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
doesnt seem like you did a lot of research to me...
msd does ignition cutoff
crome/uberdata/hondata does fuel cutoff
2step usually means you can set 2 rpm limits
3step = 3 rpm limits.
if you look at the picture, you'll see module 1, module 2, module 3.
you can see 3 different rpms for 3 different functions.
the 2step only has 2 modules.
here's some info i found for the 3step on a vendor's website.
http://www.martelbrothers.com/....html
and the same for 2step...
http://www.martelbrothers.com/....html
i did alot of seasrching on here and read a bunch about it. have to find the links.
but what all else besides hondata has a 2 step? and how does it work. ive read some people complained because they cant doa good burnout with the 2step...but why is that? cant they disable it.. i dont know exactly how it all works, thats what im wanting to know.</TD></TR></TABLE>
doesnt seem like you did a lot of research to me...
msd does ignition cutoff
crome/uberdata/hondata does fuel cutoff
2step usually means you can set 2 rpm limits
3step = 3 rpm limits.
if you look at the picture, you'll see module 1, module 2, module 3.
you can see 3 different rpms for 3 different functions.
the 2step only has 2 modules.
here's some info i found for the 3step on a vendor's website.
http://www.martelbrothers.com/....html
and the same for 2step...
http://www.martelbrothers.com/....html
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (mike93boost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and what do you mean? when you want to enable and disable it, you have to use a laptop?
should i just get a msd 6AL and 2 step moduel?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes u need a lap top, crome 2 step is not used by a clutch switch or button, my friend has it on his ls vtec, and if he wants to change the rpm launch settings he would have to go back to the tuner and have him reset it
and what do you mean? when you want to enable and disable it, you have to use a laptop?
should i just get a msd 6AL and 2 step moduel?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes u need a lap top, crome 2 step is not used by a clutch switch or button, my friend has it on his ls vtec, and if he wants to change the rpm launch settings he would have to go back to the tuner and have him reset it
06-11-2006, 01:11 PM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (SPNFEDEH)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPNFEDEH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes u need a lap top, crome 2 step is not used by a clutch switch or button, my friend has it on his ls vtec, and if he wants to change the rpm launch settings he would have to go back to the tuner and have him reset it</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think he was asking about enabling and disabling... not changing.
usually to enable "2step" (aka full throttle launch) you press in the clutch.
to disable, just depress the clutch.
yes u need a lap top, crome 2 step is not used by a clutch switch or button, my friend has it on his ls vtec, and if he wants to change the rpm launch settings he would have to go back to the tuner and have him reset it</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think he was asking about enabling and disabling... not changing.
usually to enable "2step" (aka full throttle launch) you press in the clutch.
to disable, just depress the clutch.
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (nerdsports)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i think he was asking about enabling and disabling... not changing.
usually to enable "2step" (aka full throttle launch) you press in the clutch.
to disable, just depress the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oooic my bad
i think he was asking about enabling and disabling... not changing.
usually to enable "2step" (aka full throttle launch) you press in the clutch.
to disable, just depress the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
oooic my bad
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (nerdsports)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think he was asking about enabling and disabling... not changing.
usually to enable "2step" (aka full throttle launch) you press in the clutch.
to disable, just depress the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes....so only hondata has a switch like that?
i think ill go with msd's ignition cut out instead of the fuel cutout unless anyone can give me a reason not to..
usually to enable "2step" (aka full throttle launch) you press in the clutch.
to disable, just depress the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes....so only hondata has a switch like that?
i think ill go with msd's ignition cut out instead of the fuel cutout unless anyone can give me a reason not to..
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (mike93boost)
go with msd, it uses that modual, but it uses pills instead of switch, so u would just have to change the rpm pills to wat u want, i like the hondata one cause its convenient. But i like that msd ignition one too
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (SPNFEDEH)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPNFEDEH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with msd, it uses that modual, but it uses pills instead of switch, so u would just have to change the rpm pills to wat u want, i like the hondata one cause its convenient. But i like that msd ignition one too</TD></TR></TABLE>
i know the msd has pills,, but does it have a clutch switch? how exactly does the msd one work?
but also whats the differences in a fuel cutoff and ignition cutoff 2 step?
do the msd modules come with pills.. it doesnt say and i didnt see a place to order them seperately.
i know the msd has pills,, but does it have a clutch switch? how exactly does the msd one work?
but also whats the differences in a fuel cutoff and ignition cutoff 2 step?
do the msd modules come with pills.. it doesnt say and i didnt see a place to order them seperately.
06-11-2006, 05:34 PM
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (mike93boost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes....so only hondata has a switch like that?
i think ill go with msd's ignition cut out instead of the fuel cutout unless anyone can give me a reason not to..</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, i believe crome has the option to use your a/c button as a switch to enable/disable full throttle launch.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPNFEDEH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with msd, it uses that modual, but it uses pills instead of switch, so u would just have to change the rpm pills to wat u want, i like the hondata one cause its convenient. But i like that msd ignition one too</TD></TR></TABLE>
msd uses pills or you can buy an rpm selector. it's a rotary **** that lets you change the rpm by just turning the ****. i believe theyre sold in different ranges.
and yes, pills are sold seperately.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i know the msd has pills,, but does it have a clutch switch? how exactly does the msd one work?
but also whats the differences in a fuel cutoff and ignition cutoff 2 step?
do the msd modules come with pills.. it doesnt say and i didnt see a place to order them seperately.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you look at a wiring diagram for the 2step you can set the switch to whatever you want. you can put an actual switch or a misc button in your car (defroster, a/c, w/e) or clutch switch.
and ignition cutoff obviously cuts spark but still supplies fuel...
fuel cutoff cuts fuel (obvious again)... what i noticed with uberdata/crome is that my wideband displays LEAN when its bouncing off the preset cutoff rpm. cant say thats a great thing if you're building a few psi while its displaying LEAN.
yes....so only hondata has a switch like that?
i think ill go with msd's ignition cut out instead of the fuel cutout unless anyone can give me a reason not to..</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, i believe crome has the option to use your a/c button as a switch to enable/disable full throttle launch.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SPNFEDEH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go with msd, it uses that modual, but it uses pills instead of switch, so u would just have to change the rpm pills to wat u want, i like the hondata one cause its convenient. But i like that msd ignition one too</TD></TR></TABLE>
msd uses pills or you can buy an rpm selector. it's a rotary **** that lets you change the rpm by just turning the ****. i believe theyre sold in different ranges.
and yes, pills are sold seperately.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i know the msd has pills,, but does it have a clutch switch? how exactly does the msd one work?
but also whats the differences in a fuel cutoff and ignition cutoff 2 step?
do the msd modules come with pills.. it doesnt say and i didnt see a place to order them seperately.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you look at a wiring diagram for the 2step you can set the switch to whatever you want. you can put an actual switch or a misc button in your car (defroster, a/c, w/e) or clutch switch.
and ignition cutoff obviously cuts spark but still supplies fuel...
fuel cutoff cuts fuel (obvious again)... what i noticed with uberdata/crome is that my wideband displays LEAN when its bouncing off the preset cutoff rpm. cant say thats a great thing if you're building a few psi while its displaying LEAN.
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Re: 2 step....or 3 step (nerdsports)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, i believe crome has the option to use your a/c button as a switch to enable/disable full throttle launch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so as soon as you launch you have to hit the a/c button? isnt that kind hard when your hand has to be on the ebrake for preloading the clutch then has to be back on the shifter?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
msd uses pills or you can buy an rpm selector. it's a rotary **** that lets you change the rpm by just turning the ****. i believe theyre sold in different ranges.
and yes, pills are sold seperately.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i seen those...but would you have to get two of the rpm selectors for a 2 step?
so as soon as you launch you have to hit the a/c button? isnt that kind hard when your hand has to be on the ebrake for preloading the clutch then has to be back on the shifter?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdsports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
msd uses pills or you can buy an rpm selector. it's a rotary **** that lets you change the rpm by just turning the ****. i believe theyre sold in different ranges.
and yes, pills are sold seperately.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes i seen those...but would you have to get two of the rpm selectors for a 2 step?
