sorry if this topic has been beat to death, but yall had that dicussion on your engines, and this is the only place i know where i can get real help, with people who know what they are talking about. asking the miata forum is a waste, because they just like to bitch about how trying something new is wrong, and to just do something everyone else does. you can tell why the miata research is not up to par like other cars.

like i said, i have a 95 miata, 1.8L, OBD1 revs to 7200, but with proper headwork, and a rev cutoff, you can go to 9000, but thats few. most people go to 8000-8500.
t3 is tried and true on a miata, a manifold is made for it. on my friends car, exact same cars, only his is a OBD2, and it has a swapped in automatic engine which has 9:1 compression. with a T3, he made 276hp at 16psi. boost starts around
3000rpms and it hits 5psi around 3300rpms. this was done on a plug and play standalone/piggyback called a miatalink that is just a controller that you click up and down for more or less boost, and it sets the map accoringly. so with a real proper tuning, better results could be achived, but the miatalink is very easy to use. The miatalink was tuned to 20psi, but he never trys it, not on a stock engine (stock engine can handle 15psi, after that, it gets risky)
a dyno plus other info on his car can be seen here
http://www.geocities.com/roads....html

theres no info on a 16g. Noone has tried it, manifold would have to be custom. I know the T3 super 60 is almost identical to the 16G, and one miata person has said
"my T3 (super 60) I was getting 10psi @ 3200 and 18psi @ 3700 on my 1.6L. The boost response after 3k was great....under 3k I couldnt get more than 6-8psi because miata engines dont have much exhaust energy at lower rpms."
im wondering if each turbo can make diffrent power/spoolup time.

what are my needs? i want a "high" setting, where i can get 300hp (if possible) but if anything, i want it to spool quick. I dont want any of this "t3/t4, spool until 4k then after that, hit you like a rocket" i want to be able to use this power on the street. But on the flipside, i dont want something that spools so fast, it spools at idle, and then once you DO hit 4k, it stops working. I guess if i cant find enough info to try and make a 16g work, i will get a T3


Modified by scrapp at 3:53 PM 9/7/2004

 

I have a 16G on my 1.6 sohc vtec civic, it runs awesome and you definitley are capable of 300 hp with it. It doesn't start getting touched until about 18-20 psi, thats when this thing really starts going. I also have one on my dads talon, I don't think you can beat this turbo for smaller motors and still want a nice setup internal waste and stuff makes it easier.

 

The response is quick, mine spools by 3500 and you aren't going to run out of boost, no way.

 

16G is a great turbo

the smaller TD05H (14b) is a .48 AR and I believe even that flows and is as efficent as a 60AR t3. Most Saab T3's are aroudn .48 i believe so the 16 G would really be a nice turbo. I'm running a 14b turbo on my B20 to TD05H's