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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 01:17 AM
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hi was just wondering what ecu i should run on a b18c using emanage, for best tuning.

should i run a :

b16a chipped
b16b stock
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b18c stock


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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 05:37 AM
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What exact engine application do you have?

Provide more details.
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 07:29 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

well its pretty much stock b18c and just wanna know which ecu i should stick to in terms of tunability
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

Originally Posted by bsm123
well its pretty much stock b18c and just wanna know which ecu i should stick to in terms of tunability
b18c1 or b18c type-r motor ?
What intake manifold are you running?
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

sorry. its a b18c-r
and skunk 2 intake manifold
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

Originally Posted by bsm123
sorry. its a b18c-r
and skunk 2 intake manifold
If you are using the e-manage to tune it, you should use the b18cr stock ecu.
Personally I would sell the emanage & all of the ecus you have and buy a hondata s300.
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

but how about a rechipped b16a ecu which then removes rev and speed cut and doesnt it allow emanage to take better control?

i would love to get a hondata no doubt. but it also costs about 10 times more than any of the other second hand ecu's that i mentioned.
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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E-manage can be used, though I would use the Ultimate Edition, if there is an option. It's just not popular here on Honda-Tech. Hondata /AEM tends to rule all, but most on H-T worry about the fun features of the others and don't understand its competency. Even the AEM F/IC has received a lot of flack. E-manage works fine.

Use the stock ECU as intended. the OEM ecu doesn't restrict governor speed, and the RPM rev limit is for your protection. If you possess the hardware to go higher than stock RPM range, then just use the E-manage to control it all. the values are set at 0 as it intends to base its tuning parameters from the ECU, and you can go from there.

My favorite video using E-manage. Honda Civic Esprit EK9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAPMI...C72C5A588629C0
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

Or get Neptune RTP for half the price of a S300 unit with the same features.
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

Originally Posted by TheShodan
E-manage can be used, though I would use the Ultimate Edition, if there is an option. It's just not popular here on Honda-Tech. Hondata /AEM tends to rule all, but most on H-T worry about the fun features of the others and don't understand its competency. Even the AEM F/IC has received a lot of flack. E-manage works fine.

Use the stock ECU as intended. the OEM ecu doesn't restrict governor speed, and the RPM rev limit is for your protection. If you possess the hardware to go higher than stock RPM range, then just use the E-manage to control it all. the values are set at 0 as it intends to base its tuning parameters from the ECU, and you can go from there.

My favorite video using E-manage. Honda Civic Esprit EK9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAPMI...C72C5A588629C0
ok...what kind of hardware are u talking about? plus i cant seem to get 18c chipped ecu's. only 16a chipped ones. and then to use e-manage to control it all. will that be fine?
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
Or get Neptune RTP for half the price of a S300 unit with the same features.
Half the price? Where the heck are you getting your pricing from?????
Hondata s300 = $490 retail
Neptune RTP = $399 retail
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ok...what kind of hardware are u talking about? plus i cant seem to get 18c chipped ecu's. only 16a chipped ones. and then to use e-manage to control it all. will that be fine?
OEM OBD1 or OBD2A ECU's work for E-manage. Stop this this "chipped" version stuff. Its not relevant to what you need. Yes, the E-manage will control it all to be fine. There are even Adapter harnesses to use so you don't splice into your OEM wiring.

E-manage Ultimate
http://boomslang.us/ultimate.htm

Emanage Standard
http://boomslang.us/emanage.htm
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Old Jun 2, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

hey i got same motor and i went with phearable.net p28 basemap for my motor, then had it tuned in richmond va on crome, that might work for you, $195, 2 days later it was at my door
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

Originally Posted by mtber
Half the price? Where the heck are you getting your pricing from?????
Hondata s300 = $490 retail
Neptune RTP = $399 retail
I must of misread it somewhere on here then. But IMO Neptune does the same for $100 cheaper.
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 05:01 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

Originally Posted by TheShodan
OEM OBD1 or OBD2A ECU's work for E-manage. Stop this this "chipped" version stuff. Its not relevant to what you need. Yes, the E-manage will control it all to be fine. There are even Adapter harnesses to use so you don't splice into your OEM wiring.

E-manage Ultimate
http://boomslang.us/ultimate.htm

Emanage Standard
http://boomslang.us/emanage.htm
well the thing is, i used to be running a 16b ecu with emanage on it. i found out recently that my o2 closed loop isnt functioning properly and therefore its somehow auto-setting the ecu to run rich below 50% throttle. and it seems the only way to bypass this would be to used a chipped ecu (or get another new o2 sensor which costs quite a bit) . correct me if im wrong?
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 10:15 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

An o2 sensor would be cheaper then getting a chipped ecu.
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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Default Re: what ecu for b18c?

well...the price i got for a brand new o2 was around USD 400. and a chipped ecu costs around USD 150. wouldnt it be better to bypass the auto-settings from the o2 and let e-manage control it though?
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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A brand new O2 sensor for $400? Where are you getting it from?
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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they gotta order it in from japan.
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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Where are you located?
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