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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Icon2 Problems with crome on a ls/b16vtec

Thanks for taking the time to look at this for me everyone.

I had a guy bring my his LS/ B16 vtec civic yesterday and asked me to tune it on crome for him. I have the dealer version of crome so of course I hook up all the moates gear and start looking at what he has.

The car was driven to me with an accord ecu plug into the car and it ran fine. (I think it was a poh something like that). He had a chipped p28 that when plugged in would not run the car even with the gold base map I always start with on my ostrich or the p30 that was already on the chip.

Now right away i noticed that the car was looking for 12 vacuum which is odd for stock cams. I put 16.50 degree's of timing in that area since the map had -3. The car idled so i could get some logs. Needless to say there were quite a few things that were off. which we started fixing.

I went to the throttle body to adjust the screw for idle to see if i could bring it down some and take away the air. The screw was already all the way in. I used the iacv to bring the idle down some and see if its working and that worked. checked for vacuum leaks and could not find any. fuel pressure was good and after switch out coolant temp and intake temp sensors the car came out of ect enrichment.


Now the problems that im having:
1. In crome im not in the area of the map I should be in (checked map sensor and vacuum leaks).
2. when looking at fuel to get the car to stay running im at values around 300 when im usually at 109 and injector duty cycle is at 9 percent at idle (b16 injectors fuel pressure 45 and batt volts at 13.5).

The car will idle fine once i give it what it wants but everything I see is so off.

Any direction provided would be appreciated
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Problems with crome on a ls/b16vtec

It sounds like a problem with the car, not the software.
If the car is only pulling 12 inches of vacuum at idle on stock cams there is a mechanical problem.

Check the timing belt to make sure everything lines up at top dead center.
Compression test the motor & perform a leak down test too.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Problems with crome on a ls/b16vtec

Originally Posted by mtber
It sounds like a problem with the car, not the software.
If the car is only pulling 12 inches of vacuum at idle on stock cams there is a mechanical problem.

Check the timing belt to make sure everything lines up at top dead center.
Compression test the motor & perform a leak down test too.


This car clearly needs a whole check from top to bottom but the funny thing is that even while crome was showing 12 inch worth of vacuum and was taking a ve number of 290 - 310 to stay idling it was still at 800 rpm and when you gave it what it wanted the car idled like a dream. not a miss, not a bump, nothing.

Im still going to go over everything again as the water pump started to die when i was in the middle of working on it.
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by myblackhatch
This car clearly needs a whole check from top to bottom but the funny thing is that even while crome was showing 12 inch worth of vacuum and was taking a ve number of 290 - 310 to stay idling it was still at 800 rpm and when you gave it what it wanted the car idled like a dream. not a miss, not a bump, nothing.

Im still going to go over everything again as the water pump started to die when i was in the middle of working on it.
I am guessing the car was throwing no codes?

Check the injector wiring. Check the impedance of the injectors too to see if they are low impedance & require a resistor box...
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