I just want a real list of pros and cons, from ppl who have had either one, or both. its gonna be going with a p30 for an lsvtec, b18a1 block, with p30 pistons 81.25mm, and the head with skunk pro 2 intake mani, throttle body, stiffer valve springs, and retainers, new valves, stock cames.

 

its crome btw... and its free... s100 is a waste of money... if you want a good engine management program get ectune same if not better then s300 and only cost 200 rather then 500 or whatever hondata cost...

ectune you are going to NEED to have a real time programmer either the moates ostrich which is an external rtp or the moates demon which is an internal rtp just like the honda's s300...

total cost with the ectune and ostrich or demon is around 400 or less i know they have package deals for a good price.. and again cheaper then s300 lol...

honestly s100 or s200 i think is a waste of time for your basic ls vtec build i think crome should be fine for you..

i ran crome free on my 98 spec R for 2.5 years no problems, had intake, high end header, exhaust no cat, jg gears never dyno tuned it i street tuned it with my computer and i dont really remember loosing too much actually i dont remember 1 time i lost in that car against sti's on the freeway

 

S100/200 is much better then crome. I know the crome people will call me a hater, but crome will always be second best. It is a FREE software. If you think that a free software will be anything better then a software that has actual R&D, that is a little silly. Features in hondata work, crome does not.

i am not a huge hondata guy, and I will tell you that I would much rather run s100 then any crome software. I would rather run neptune, but Hondata or neptune is better then crome.

 

so its gonna be dyno tuned, i was gonna go crome probly cause i can get it tuned with crome for roughly about 300-350. but i was possibly going to just do s100.

i would really like a list of what crome does, and then what the s100 does. iv looked and i have found conflicting lists.

 

I couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!

 

i know... crome isnt that great of a program, i have crome pro, but i still have worked with crome free for around 4 years now purchased crome pro about 9 months ago, i should have just gotten the ectune but i tune multiple cars...

i think ectune is better then hondata for the price honestly

 

You cant go wrong with neptune

 

ive never seen the neptune program ive heard about it, but like ectune, hondata crome uberdata you cant download it... like ectune and hondata you can download the program but you cant use it to tune, its just to check it out...

i would like to see someone dyno their car during the same day with 3 different p28 setups.. crome hondata and ectune see if there is a power difference.. all motor of course, but it would be a good comparison

 

Yes, you can download neptune on hrtuning.com

There is no "power" difference between crome, ectune, hondata, aem ems etc if the tuner knows what they are doing. The major difference is that the softwares/hardware have different features & some have bugs as to where others don't.

 

ya thats my point... i know hondata is good but i mean for a street lsvtec or any street car why spend 500 bucks on hondata? for that same price or cheaper, he can get a basemap with crome, take it straight to a tuner and have it tuned...

but i know crome is buggy all the years i have been using it i have found ways around it but all of the plugins i use work just sometimes i have a problem burning a chip through crome....

anyway's lol like i keep saying id get ectune any day of the week over anything else its what im gonna put in my car when i get enough to get another one setup kids r expensive lol

 

If you're getting tuned by a tuner, look into authorized NepTune and eCtune tuners. It'll cost much less than a setup to tune yourself and you'll get a lot more features than the S100 provides.

If you're looking to tune yourself you can have NepTune or eCtune for just a little more than a complete Crome setup and they're both leaps and bounds better than Crome. You won't be able to tune the S100 yourself.

And yes you can download the NepTune software for free to check it out.

 

You know, a month ago I would argue with you about how Crome is a cheaper alternative but that program is seriously starting to **** me off. I'm planning on picking up Neptune + Demon in a few months when I get money for my research (temporary funding cuts).

 

Crome is not free.
you can look but you cant touch, that will cost you about 135$

S100 is too trash. s300 actually works, but you gotta bend over to use it. some people like to bend over and pay **** tons, makes them feel better, because Hondata cost the most it must be better right?? Just don't make a program and call it your intellectual property. lol. why you tuners still support that company is beyond me.

eCtune FTW

The OP has a simple lsv. you gonna tell him Crome wont suffice for his needs?

Turbogixxer, id never call you a hater, your too damn kewl for that talk. btw the g23vt2b is in the making

 

Since when does Crome NOT have a free option?

If the OP is looking to tune the car himself or wants the flexibility of making adjustments after a dyno tune, you can't beat the NepTune RTP system for price, features, and support.

 

eh free option sure. but really... you can touch blindfolded, death and dumb.

 

crome free and freelog yes its a pain in the *** but it worked for me for 4 years till i got crome pro... but still i wont use crome pro in my next car ill be getting ectune for sure.. crome for all the other peoples cars i do unless they want something better but people are cheap and they usually dont care as long as it runs good

 

It does that sometimes.

Sounds good. Let me know if you have any questions before then.

 

Why has nobody mentioned that S100 does not have datalogging? Crome free is better than S100 for that reason alone, not to mention the extra ROM options.

For a mildly modified engine Crome will work better for you than an S100 -- although the day you upgrade to Crome Pro you'll kick your own *** for wasting so much time in Freelog.

PS I have a Freelog AFR Excel worksheet for auto-tuning fuel maps, PM me if you want it.

 

1.) http://hondata.com/s100.html

2.) http://tunewithcrome.com/basicfeatures.editing.html

...TADAAAAAAA!

 

Hondata s100 is not designed to be datalogged, hondata s100 is designed for a consumer to be able to have a hondata dealer tune their car on Hondata's software & not break the bank.

I personally have tuned more cars on both solutions then most people & I can tell you I would run Hondata s100 over crome.
Prime example is random bs like you are experiencing with your random cut out etc.
There is no support, no testing, no real updates anymore etc.
I am not against crome, I think it is awesome that it exists however I do not feel it should be called a better solution then Hondata by any means.

Crome is still a viable solution, however if your going to spend money on a car, why not also spend it on engine management that actually has support & r&d?
If crome eventually gets back to real code testing & development, then I feel it would be worth looking at.

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There have been plenty of threads about this before...

 

You've got a point, it can be buggy at times and lacks "official" support.
But for the price and personal versatility, I think it's more applicable for the average motor enthusiast.
If you have a wideband, it makes sense to have datalogging.
I do respect your opinion, but I still recommend Crome to best suit this application.

 

Thanks, lol

LEt me know how the g23 does, I have been itching to build one.

I like Neptune, but I am biased. JR is my friend on Facebook :p

 

Ahahahaha

 

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neptune ftw