Hey guys!

I've been a member of the Honda community for a long time now and really have the basis for building a motor and basically any other aspect to building a car down.

For a long time I've wanted to learn the basics of tuning and quite possibly purchase a dyno and start my own shop. In order to do that I really need to start somewhere and learn the basics of the whole process. I understand air/fuel ratio and the lot just never had much experience with tuning itself (outside an safc ).

Could someone point me int he right direction in order to get my knowledge ball rolling?

Really a good to buy would be nice.

Thanks a lot, and thanks for the space.


Modified by i heart honda at 10:06 PM 9/26/2008

 

PS: i looked in the faq's through the basics, but i already know most of that stuff. i guess im looking for some more advanced info.

 

Buy the A. Graham Bell books on Tuning.... both the four stroke performance tuning book, and the forced induction tuning book.

Buy the 2 Jeff Hartman Books on engine management and turbos
Buy the Greg Banish book on Fuel Injection Tuning

Get a copy of the old Jacobs Book on Ignition systems.

Buy the Pro-Systems tuning video and spark plug viewer.

These are general tuning theory and application, and engine theory etc...

Also, some of the EFI manuals are very good... AEM, Accel DFI. stuff on the Megasquirt site... the tuning part is cross platform.... the software is application specific.

If you are gonna buy a dyno, there is really only one to get right now, and that is the MustangDyne series. I have the MD250, but the Galdiator is a good low cost eddie brake model. If you call Mustang Dynamometer, talk to Scott or Michael, and tell em Toma sent ya... but don't waste their time Trust me, I have been tuning for over 10 years, and use them all, and own a MD250 and a DynoDyanmics 450DS. The MD250 is rock solid, and has given me no grief in 7 years that I have owned it, is extremely repeatable and accurate, easy software, more loading options then anyone else, more test modes, standard with 8 auxiliary datalog channels (though I only usually log MAP, Fuel Pressure, AFR).

Plan to spend $1000+ on a GOOD wideband. ECM 1000, Motec PLM, FJO with both bosch and NTK sensor, etc.

 

efi101.com

 

EFI101??
Waste of time.

A much better one if you really think it will help is "Calibrated Success"

But NONE of them can replace experience and reading.

 

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Waste of time.

A much better one if you really think it will help is "Calibrated Success"

But NONE of them can replace experience and reading.</TD></TR></TABLE>

have you taken the class?

 

i found efi101 pretty informational...

 

I have already planned on taking it next time there is a session within reasonable driving distance. Seems to be a very informed class, especially for people just starting out.

 

A friend took the EFI101 advanced, and I took the basic Calibrated Success one... we compared notes and material

Both were quite basic, but the basic Calibrated Success was a better class in both our opinions, and taught by an actual calibration engineer who works for GM.


I took it cause I like that kind of ****... but if you need a class like that, I dunno if you are anywhere near ready to work on other peoples cars.


Besides that, I took the AEM Factory training, the Accel EMIC training, the Electromotive class, and the Tuner School GM class.

And like I said... none of them really taught me much beyond software. The tuning knowledge and experience came from books and experience.

 

also i dont know if this is allowed but try pgmfi.org they offer alot of help for obd1 tuning and dats always a good start i guess im new to it and have learned so much starting on Crome helped alot

 

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lmao now thats a dumb comment!your saying that cause u never been to the class.

 

Well, just judging from the websites... EFI is taught by Ben Strader. Read his book. Pretty good. Calibrated Success is taught by Greg Banish. Read his book. Pretty good. Neither book does more than introduce you to tuning. I suppose you'd have to read a book specific to a particular vehicle for it to give you some solid, specific tuning info.

If you take the complete EFI101, you get a certificate that might help you get a job. At least there's a pretty in-depth advanced course with hands on dyno tuning. At Calibrated Success it looks like your options beyond the basic class are Ford or GM classes. No thanks.

So when did your friend take the EFI course? It seems like it's expanded quite a bit from when they just had the basics class.